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Old 05-20-2008, 06:53 AM   #1
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Anyone out there using TU's new cast iron header assy? Any major benefits?
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Would you consider changing the turbo without pulling the head a benefit?
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Would you consider changing the turbo without pulling the head a benefit?

Sure would, along with better flow, more hp, more efficiency. Only drawback I see is that he no longer loves us.
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Sure would, along with better flow, more hp, more efficiency. Only drawback I see is that he no longer loves us.
You should read what he wrote on the other site...
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:08 AM   #5
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You should read what he wrote on the other site...
One thing I do have to say though, is that there is lots less vendor drama around here.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:52 PM   #6
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yeah what happened to cause the less vendor drama
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:27 PM   #7
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The flange on that header looks to be way to big..you have to port 1/4" from most of your turbine housing.....
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:56 PM   #8
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you have to port your turbine to use it and a little match porting. Then mine had a pile of metal shavings in it. It is for people that are doing a ton of mods, not just a few. I am modding my water lines to the heater to make the header fit. It isn't that great in an L body, I think they should mave moved it over like they did, but they could have moved it over a whole 2" less than they did and made life easier. My big valve head and my TU header and finished (thank god) intake are going to the flow bench. Hoping the TU header flows what the head flows, I think it will.

Everyone has there opinions. I like TUs exhaust and the fact they sell cast exhaust parts. You must be ready to wait. If you are doing a build that'll take a long time to complete order parts from TU early. They show up someday but take time. But exhaust is always needed and they spent some money on our exhaust.

Person side? Well I think Chris is a hot head and has that real short fuse. I have talked with him on forums and on the phone and found him not friendly. But you don't have to be friendly to sell something good. Cindy on the other hand is very friendly with a nitrous personality, I've always bought a lot from FWD. If they have it I get it fast, if they don't I hear about it and expect it. FM? I don't really think they have much intrest in TDs unless it is huge money. Then I'm not realy sure the point of there heads or the FAST systems. Sure FAST systems rule, but less than 1% need it. Then the CNC $2,300 heads? I can not force a lower half of a 2 piece to keep up with my garage ported head. Then the bottom ends they do are really cool and less than 1% can use them too. I do love there GT turbo line and the guy that is there is always eating when you call them lol.
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Old 05-20-2008, 07:24 PM   #9
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never heard the guy eating in the calls that i have made but they were very helpful and the parts showed up crazy fast but i dont live to far away either
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Old 05-20-2008, 09:35 PM   #10
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never heard the guy eating in the calls that i have made but they were very helpful and the parts showed up crazy fast but i dont live to far away either
he could eating , screwing, playing with Madonna's kitty Kat, as long as I get the right parts, I could care less!
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He's not eating, it's his thick eastern accent that just makes him almost impossible to understand. Sounds like they dragged him out of the backwoods of inbredville. There is NO WAY I'd have someone that sounded like that answering the phone for my business.
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Man, you've never spoken to some of the ship building places in Luisiana then have you?! Holy crap, you need a friggin translator to understand those guys!
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if you go through some of the FM threads you will get the same thing though. Many think he is eating while on the phone lol
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you have to port your turbine to use it and a little match porting. Then mine had a pile of metal shavings in it. It is for people that are doing a ton of mods, not just a few. I am modding my water lines to the heater to make the header fit. It isn't that great in an L body, I think they should mave moved it over like they did, but they could have moved it over a whole 2" less than they did and made life easier. My big valve head and my TU header and finished (thank god) intake
You're welcome for finding you a welder
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you have to port your turbine to use it and a little match porting. Then mine had a pile of metal shavings in it. It is for people that are doing a ton of mods, not just a few. I am modding my water lines to the heater to make the header fit. It isn't that great in an L body, I think they should mave moved it over like they did, but they could have moved it over a whole 2" less than they did and made life easier. My big valve head and my TU header and finished (thank god) intake are going to the flow bench. Hoping the TU header flows what the head flows, I think it will.

Everyone has there opinions. I like TUs exhaust and the fact they sell cast exhaust parts. You must be ready to wait. If you are doing a build that'll take a long time to complete order parts from TU early. They show up someday but take time. But exhaust is always needed and they spent some money on our exhaust.

Person side? Well I think Chris is a hot head and has that real short fuse. I have talked with him on forums and on the phone and found him not friendly. But you don't have to be friendly to sell something good. Cindy on the other hand is very friendly with a nitrous personality, I've always bought a lot from FWD. If they have it I get it fast, if they don't I hear about it and expect it. FM? I don't really think they have much intrest in TDs unless it is huge money. Then I'm not realy sure the point of there heads or the FAST systems. Sure FAST systems rule, but less than 1% need it. Then the CNC $2,300 heads? I can not force a lower half of a 2 piece to keep up with my garage ported head. Then the bottom ends they do are really cool and less than 1% can use them too. I do love there GT turbo line and the guy that is there is always eating when you call them lol.
Are you talking about the new cast piece?

I have seen pictures on the other site and its a lot more then "a little" gasket matching. A full 1/4" to be removed from 3 sides of the flange is just sloppy. Its not going to help your turbine flow after all that porting either.
We are talking about massive amounts of porting unless you do a crappy job and just round off the edges instead of tapering the gasket matching into the turbine like you should.

I dont agree that fancy exhaust manifolds are for people with lots of mods. I would want to upgrade my manifold regardless of my HP goals. But thats how I roll.
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