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03-17-2004, 06:19 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Southgate, KY
My Ride: 1987 Shelby GLHS 189
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
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Originally posted by gaboon
I'm bringing LOTS OF BEER
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Whooo hooo... Should take a low 12 to make the cut this year... Hoping I'll be ready!!! I know you are already there!!
That header is nice.. How's it hold up on street use...
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03-18-2004, 07:07 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Southgate, KY
My Ride: 1987 Shelby GLHS 189
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.510
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03-19-2004, 04:41 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Chattanooga, TN
My Ride: 89 Lebaron GT coupe
Engine: 2.5 T2 turbo, I.C.
Induct: Turbo
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Originally posted by ForceFed Wraith
Who ELSE makes a proper header for our cars? I've seen the stock logs from the factory and they're just pathetic, I think headers would show a decent gain per psi, and definitely want to add one while my car is all apart.
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ported, the factory manifold works quite well. dont under-estimate them....your money would be better spent on other mods...
headers are some of the most over-rated performance mods out there. not that they dont help, its just that they dont give as much power increase as some believe they do...
but, given the exceptonal power output of Stephane`s car, im sure a header is of much greater benefit to him than most of us...
while that header is a fine piece of work, equal lenght headers generaly give little, if any gains over un equal lenght designs...
Last edited by 2Lebarons; 03-19-2004 at 04:50 AM.
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03-23-2004, 06:37 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: www.TurboDodge.com
My Ride: 1991 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.5L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.000
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Originally posted by 2Lebarons
ported, the factory manifold works quite well. dont under-estimate them....your money would be better spent on other mods...
headers are some of the most over-rated performance mods out there. not that they dont help, its just that they dont give as much power increase as some believe they do...
but, given the exceptonal power output of Stephane`s car, im sure a header is of much greater benefit to him than most of us...
while that header is a fine piece of work, equal lenght headers generaly give little, if any gains over un equal lenght designs...
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that is actually wrong. equal length header designs when done right allow for higher VE across the board, lower EGT temperatures, and decrease your lag. it allows you to run more hp per pound of boost.
now, what i will say is that the header we see above probably wont be all that much better then the ported out factory. the reason for this is that he air is so unstable through all the bends and because very turbulant at the collector/flange. in order to achieve all that i mentioned, you must keep the bends to a minimum, try to put a straight section before every curve, and most of all, put a straight section between the collector and the flange.
ok, that is quite difficult especially in our cars and motors, so that header is a good accoplishment. the header above will flow way better, however it will only achieve a little less lag.... if i was a betting man.
frank
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03-23-2004, 09:38 AM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: PirateSwashbucklers.awesome
My Ride: 88 Plymouth Reliant
Engine: 2.5L T2
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Originally posted by fkatzenb
now, what i will say is that the header we see above probably wont be all that much better then the ported out factory.
the header above will flow way better, however it will only achieve a little less lag.... if i was a betting man.
frank
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Hey Frank,
Not to be jerk, but dont those two phrases seem to contradict themselves?
theory, schmeory..... i wanna see dyno results.
Brian
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03-23-2004, 11:01 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: www.TurboDodge.com
My Ride: 1991 Daytona Shelby
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Brina, (LMAO)
I did screw up on what I was trying to say....
"now, what i will say is that the header we see above probably wont be all that much better in producing horsepower then the ported out factory. "
Remember flow isnt everything. hence why I said, "the header above will flow way better, however it will only achieve a little less lag.... if i was a betting man."
Dyno results would be awesome.
Frank
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03-23-2004, 11:05 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: www.TurboDodge.com
My Ride: 1991 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.5L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.000
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Hey Brina, why did you edit your post to say Brian????
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03-23-2004, 11:06 AM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: PirateSwashbucklers.awesome
My Ride: 88 Plymouth Reliant
Engine: 2.5L T2
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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so i dont look as retarded as you!
Brian
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