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**Shadow** · **Can a 60trim make 600whp**

I've seen #'s posted on several turbo sites that say a T04e 57 trim is good to 550hp and a 60 trim is good to 600hp. It seems, however, that the most people are getting out of the 60 is 450-500whp. Is this because the turbo sites are talking crank hp? If that's so, what would be a better choice for a 2.4 that's going to buzz to 7500-8000rpm and make 600 at the wheels?

The WRAITH · 12-17-2005, 12:16 PM

In Australia we only talk rear wheel HP,I would suggest that you get a GT/40 series roller bearing turbo rated to 700HP,You can get bigger HP turbo's 800HP to 1200HP.

You can get a easy 600RWHP on a GT/40 series turbo also what other mods you have on the car?

**mopar2ya** · 12-17-2005, 12:17 PM

I dont think any hybrid will make that much wheel h.p., they just cant move that much air.

**Shadow** · 12-17-2005, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The WRAITH

In Australia we only talk rear wheel HP,I would suggest that you get a GT/40 series roller bearing turbo rated to 700HP,You can get bigger HP turbo's 800HP to 1200HP.

You can get a easy 600RWHP on a GT/40 series turbo also what other mods you have on the car?

Car is not together yet, that's why I'm wondering about the turbo. We have a complete 04 SRT4 and are thinking about stuffing the whole PT into my bro's 86 Shelby Charger. Big valve race ported head, aluminum or titanium rods, knife edged crank, 70mm TB, custom intake and header, ect. ect. I've actually been trying to convince him to stick with a 2.2 but he seems to like the uniquness of doing a 2.4 5 spd with the quaife. Biggest Q's left if we do the 2.4 is cams(crane 18's or bigger), turbo and finally management. I think we should run 88-89 T2 electronics and run the dist off the cam, but again my bro likes the idea of trying the SRT4 electronics(because he can). There's alway's the option of running it off T3 electronics, don't know yet, but we don't want the turbo to hold us back so........WDYT?

glht_omni · 12-17-2005, 03:47 PM

if your going all out like you mentioned, just get the ball bearing turbo to be sure. a few guys are running it with 2.5 dohc and they love it.

**mopar2ya** · 12-17-2005, 03:54 PM

Id do stand alone engine mgt. SDS or Bigstuff3, something like that. BTW I know alot of people use those Crane cams, but remember they are not turbo cams they are NA cams.

**Shadow** · 12-17-2005, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar2ya

Id do stand alone engine mgt. SDS or Bigstuff3, something like that. BTW I know alot of people use those Crane cams, but remember they are not turbo cams they are NA cams.

Was wondering about that. We were going to go with the 2.0l cams but I've been told the 18's will take us to 7500rpm+ and make better power up top.

**Shadow** · 12-17-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mopar2ya

I dont think any hybrid will make that much wheel h.p., they just cant move that much air.

The 60 trim we have is mated to a very small 04 68 A/R turbine housing.
Looks like it would flow about 50% more exaust than a T3 63 A/R stag 3. 60 trim should make power to 35psi but most have trouble getting more than 29-30 out of it. I figured the T3 exaust side could be a choke so we found the small 04 housing. Still, we've decided that even if we made 550whp@35psi we'd be taking it off, so if that's the case we need a better flowing turbo.

Ondonti · 12-18-2005, 03:46 AM

Im sure you could probably make 600ish on the 60 trim if you spent a whole lot of money on other parts and had an amazing exhaust manifold.

So, basically no.

Not sure what you plan to do with a super high hp 2.4 with a 5 speed. If you get any traction you can kiss the tranny goodbuy.

Mike Radowski · 12-18-2005, 09:44 AM

go with a gt35r. My friend made 667 whp at 40psi with c16 in his 2.0L talon. I ran one in my rampage and I am running one in the M3.

**Shadow** · 12-18-2005, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mopar2ya

Id do stand alone engine mgt. SDS or Bigstuff3, something like that. BTW I know alot of people use those Crane cams, but remember they are not turbo cams they are NA cams.

Any feedback on the people who use those cams? BTW aren't all 2.4 cams N/A?

**Shadow** · 12-18-2005, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ondonti

Not sure what you plan to do with a super high hp 2.4 with a 5 speed. If you get any traction you can kiss the tranny goodbuy.

You don't think the SRT4 trans can take 600whp?

**Shadow** · 12-18-2005, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Radowski

go with a gt35r. My friend made 667 whp at 40psi with c16 in his 2.0L talon. I ran one in my rampage and I am running one in the M3.

That sounds pretty good. We wanted to make 600 @ around 30-35psi so that sounds about right. How do you find the spool?

phaxtris · 12-22-2005, 02:53 PM

they would be stating crank hp, the only people who talk about wheel horse power is the end user

Ondonti · 12-23-2005, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

You don't think the SRT4 trans can take 600whp?

Unless you would like to tell me its a LOT stronger then an a568 then yes, thats what Im saying.
I thought people had said it was not as strong.
If you never get any traction, then sure, you might be okay. Whats the point of having 600fwhp and never using it.