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02-07-2006, 01:06 PM
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Will Our Swingvalve pieces Bolt On Ford Exhaust housing
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Windsor, Ont.
My Ride: 87 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.260
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Will the Chryslers Swing valves (2.25, 2.5 or 3" TU) bolt onto a Ford exhuast housing???
I was looking at the bolt pattern and its very similar in the pics, has anyone tried this??? the wastegate hole appears to be close too
was thinking of using a Ford turd burd exhaust housing in replacement of my TD one, because I can find a .63 one, and T3 flanges are readily available, for header purposes.
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02-07-2006, 01:13 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Boca Raton, Florida
My Ride: 85 shelby charger
Engine: 2.2 liter I-4
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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No they wont bolt up, the hole pattern is different.
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02-07-2006, 01:16 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Windsor, Ont.
My Ride: 87 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.260
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damnit, they look very similar!!!
im sure there is a place to buy an attachment for it....like a V band?? then get some sort of 3" custom mandrel Downpipe.....im sure that would flow really nice too
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02-07-2006, 01:41 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sacramento California
My Ride: 1984 Daytona
Engine: 2.2L Turbo 1
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.860
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Check out atp turbo's site. They have a really nice v band singvalve housing for the ford turbo's. www.atpturbo.com
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02-07-2006, 03:07 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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FM carries the Ford style SV and DP elbow. Thats what I am running on my turbo and a few TIII guys also use it.
http://www.forwardmotioninc.com/html...bochargers.htm
Bottom of the page.
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02-08-2006, 12:35 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Windsor, Ont.
My Ride: 87 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.260
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that ATP thing looks really nice, looks like it would flow nice too, if I can find the ford .63 housing cheap enuff, Ill most likely go that route, would be a breeze to do things with the V bands....
Simon is what your reffering to as, whats in the pic for the enforcer 2 on the TIII motors?? the 2 1/2" swingvalve?? too bad they dont make them in 3", also would the stock DP from a TII car bolt right up?? or are the TIII downpipes different?
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02-08-2006, 12:56 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by Juggy
Simon is what your reffering to as, whats in the pic for the enforcer 2 on the TIII motors?? the 2 1/2" swingvalve?? too bad they dont make them in 3", also would the stock DP from a TII car bolt right up?? or are the TIII downpipes different?
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Yep, thats it. I know, all that R@D to make it and they go with 2 1/2 inch. I had my concerns but PAT and others on there R/T's have ran 11's and 12's withit so it must work.
Yep, it will bolt up to a reg DP, I have that on my 8V van,
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02-08-2006, 01:56 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Windsor, Ont.
My Ride: 87 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.260
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Originally Posted by turbovanman
Yep, thats it. I know, all that R@D to make it and they go with 2 1/2 inch. I had my concerns but PAT and others on there R/T's have ran 11's and 12's withit so it must work.
Yep, it will bolt up to a reg DP, I have that on my 8V van, 
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Im gonna hit u up with a PM I have a couple other questions for you.
do u know the cost of it from FM by anychance??
also that 2.5" 90 elbow would surely flow more than a standard 2.5" garret chrysler swingvalve style....how would you compare it in flow to say the 3" TU one??
Ive dealt with FM and it took forever to get what i needed....im looking forward to dealing with TU in the very near future....
I guess it all comes down to what exhaust housing I get, the standard T3, or the chrysler one.....
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02-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Its in the link, I think it was $225 with no ox bung, $275 with it.
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02-08-2006, 10:47 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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Originally Posted by turbovanman
Yep, thats it. I know, all that R@D to make it and they go with 2 1/2 inch. I had my concerns but PAT and others on there R/T's have ran 11's and 12's withit so it must work.
Yep, it will bolt up to a reg DP, I have that on my 8V van, 
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Went 12.0 @ 118 in a Spirit and 11.6 @ 120 in the Shadow with the FM piece. I wish it was 3", but the 2.5" seems to be working well.
Pat
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02-09-2006, 01:48 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by Pat
Went 12.0 @ 118 in a Spirit and 11.6 @ 120 in the Shadow with the FM piece. I wish it was 3", but the 2.5" seems to be working well.
Pat
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No shit, at the very least, I wish we could bolt up a 3inch dp. I am going to have my buddy at his machine shop cut out the flange so I can run a 3 inch DP.
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02-09-2006, 06:09 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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Originally Posted by turbovanman
No shit, at the very least, I wish we could bolt up a 3inch dp. I am going to have my buddy at his machine shop cut out the flange so I can run a 3 inch DP. 
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That's a good idea...let me know how it works out!
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02-09-2006, 08:48 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: canada
My Ride: 88 Shelby Z
Engine: 2.2L TII 175hp
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Originally Posted by turbovanman
Its in the link, I think it was $225 with no ox bung, $275 with it.
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 Thats too bad, for that much money you can get the .63 Dodge housing and bolt it on...
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02-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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Originally Posted by Waramp
 Thats too bad, for that much money you can get the .63 Dodge housing and bolt it on...
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Not if you're running a T-III. Even if you modify the flange on the manifold to accept a Dodge bolt pattern, the flange angle on the T-III is very different from the flange angle on an 8v motor, meaning if you'd have to significantly alter the angle of the manifold flange to get the turbo to sit properly so the dodge swingvalve outlet was not pointed at the k frame.
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02-09-2006, 01:27 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by Pat
That's a good idea...let me know how it works out!
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I will do that,
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Originally Posted by Waramp
 Thats too bad, for that much money you can get the .63 Dodge housing and bolt it on...
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Yeah, when I bought my turbo, I was going TIII, then changed my mind AFTER I bought the turbo but now have all my TIII stuff sourced up soooooo I don't feel so bad anymore,
Last edited by turbovanman; 02-09-2006 at 04:30 PM.
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