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Old 02-25-2006, 06:57 PM   #1
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When replacing the stock Mitsu with a stock T2 Garrett, is this a direct swap meaning can you unbolt the Mitsu turbo, swingvalve assembly and bolt in the Garrett assembly changing nothing else?I know the oil and coolant lines woudl need to be replaced and will be replacing them with the braided lines from TU. For $110, its cheap insurance since they have to be changed anyhow.
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Old 02-26-2006, 01:46 AM   #2
 
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Yes it's a simple direct swap, done it myself a time or two. You will need the Garrett oil & coolant lines.
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excellent thank you!
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it is a direct swap, but you need to either pull an axle or the head to change it out. Not a huge deal, definately worth it.
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Old 03-01-2006, 06:04 AM   #5
 
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nope, you can pull a turbo and have a new one installed in about 4 hours if you havnt done it before. ive done it about 4 times now. i learned it helps to pull the starter to make things easier to get to.
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excellent thank you! Is it also easier to pull the axles out too?
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i never did cause if you do you end up draining the trans fluid. its less messier without pulling them. just get a socket set, some wrenches and jack stands and you should be set. in all honesty, its not that hard
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I have a ton of tools, I use to have a performance shop and installed alot of bolt on's for RWD domestic cars
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:42 PM   #9
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Not that hard MY ASS!!!

If you've got a blow-through intake manifold on the car, it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to change the turbo in the car without pulling the head.

I built my new 2.2 Turbo on an engine stand, and even then with the swingvalve rod, oil and water lines, etc, it was necessary to rotate the engine on the stand and use wrenches and sockets and U-joints and extensions in just a certain way to get the turbo mounting bolts tight and have everything else hooked up.

And this is with everything clean, good lighting, not in a rush for time, and all the room needed to do it.

DON'T try to pull the turbo in the car. It may be possible if you try hard enough, but it's definitely not worth the effort to save a few bucks on a new headgasket and head bolts, which the engine probably needs anyway.
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Old 03-01-2006, 08:32 PM   #10
 
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well its not that hard with a 89 lebaron. sorry it was so hard for you. too bad, so sad.
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Not that hard MY ASS!!!

If you've got a blow-through intake manifold on the car, it's damn near IMPOSSIBLE to change the turbo in the car without pulling the head.

I built my new 2.2 Turbo on an engine stand, and even then with the swingvalve rod, oil and water lines, etc, it was necessary to rotate the engine on the stand and use wrenches and sockets and U-joints and extensions in just a certain way to get the turbo mounting bolts tight and have everything else hooked up.

And this is with everything clean, good lighting, not in a rush for time, and all the room needed to do it.

DON'T try to pull the turbo in the car. It may be possible if you try hard enough, but it's definitely not worth the effort to save a few bucks on a new headgasket and head bolts, which the engine probably needs anyway.
.....its not hard. ive done it a few times with the motor in the car and the head/manifolds on.


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I swapped my mitsu for a garret in 2 hours. All I removed was the throttle-body, aircleaner and lines to the turbo. Obviously removed all the bolts from the turbo, dropped the exhaust all the way to the passenger side, and believe it or not, pulled the turbo right out from under the brake-booster towards the battery. Even the garret slipped back in without a hitch. Just plan your moves and it will fit through. Removing the axles is way more than you need to do. You don't even need to remove the starter!

But, If the turbo has NEVER been out of the car. You might as well just take the head off anyways. It's most likely due for a head gasket and timing belt.
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Old 03-02-2006, 07:29 AM   #13
 
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I see, so the best time to swap the turbo is when I change the head gasket.. I will do just that. Thanks for the advise!
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Yup pull the head with the turbo attached, It will probably weigh about 100lbs so try to have a helper if you are not a big guy.
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I am a pretty stocky guy, submission grapple and kickbox every week I can handle it
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