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Old 03-08-2006, 09:35 PM   #1
Turbo on non-turbo engine?  
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How hard is it to put a turbo on a non-turbo engine? I'm talkin about the 85 daytona, would be able to put a T1/2 on it or would it be very costly?
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shure you could put it on it but dont expect the bottom end to stand up to it or the transmission...and im not positive but i think the compression alone would kill it in short order...i mean yes it would be a bolt on and shure it would be cheep and easy to do but realy its not going to handle it
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Never tried it ourselves but I know of three others that tried and I think 3 months was the longest one lasted. When it showed up at the shop it was still running, just blowing oil out of ALL OF THE SEALS!
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To physically put the turbocharger on and have a non-intercooled setup, you would at the very least need the exhaust manifold, the turbocharger, and some means of plumbing the output of the turbo into the intake. Even if you managed to make The TBI intake work with that pressure without having it leak boost, you would lean out the engine super quick. With the higher compression of the TBI engines, you would destroy your pistons in very short order from detonation.

To do a more complete conversion, you would need the exahust manifold, turbo intake manifold, the various sensors associated with the stock turbo setup (2-bar MAP sensor, charge temp sensor, etc), as well as the computer for a turbo car. Being not as familar with the wiring on these cars as I'd like, I'm not certain if you would be doing wiring work or not. I'm thinking so, because the pinouts on the TBI and turbo computers are different in some spots. If you wanted the factory intercooler, you would need the T-II radiator and intercooler from a T-II car, (Daytona, Lebaron, Lancer, CSX), and the piping to plumb it into the intake.

Even if you did get all the wiring and electronics to match up the electronics the factory turbo cars had, you would still be running TBI pistons in your engine, which have higher compression, which is bad thing on our turbo engines. The higher compression tends to cause the motor to be more prone to detonation. I believe Turbovaman was running TBI pistons in his van for a while, but kept melting pistons from detonation. Don't quote me on that, however, I'll let him speak for himself.
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Junkyard turbo engine + turbo is not that expensive..
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Thx guys i dont think im gonna do this, Tryingbe daytona parts get good $$$ around here and ive only heard of the shelby z this week lol parts for that would be very costly and hard to find around here. I was wondering about the conversion cause i was gonna buy a daytona but i want somthing with more HP, My favorite cars are the GM W-Body's im reall lookin for one of them
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It could be done.. Being an '85, it's got the less knock prone head. It's also got the stronger rods. Toss an '86+ turbo distributor in the car. An '85-'87 wiring harness, '86 or '87 GLHS logic module, turbo power module, 1 piece intake from an '88+ turbo car (any turbo dodge..), turbo exhaust mani and turbo. Turbo downpipe.. And of course, and intercooler of some sort.
After it's all done, just stick to premium gas. The G head with the swirl spark curves would give you some margin for error with the higher compression. I think it'd all work out to be just fine.
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lol go yard an engine and trans from a turbo van..dirt cheap and still the same performance of a turbo car
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I bought a mint 1983 olds cutlass supreme for $1200, it has a 403 rocket in it guess this topic can be closed now
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