NON Chrysler Turbos

[Shadow]

From what I have seen of those turbo's they MIGHT survive at low boost levels. A customer brought one into the shop that was run on higher boost and all of the compressor fins where bent over. They obviously don't use the same grade of aluminum in there wheels. That, and the bearings and bearing housing were whipped. Not even worth rebuilding at that point.

[tkelly27]

our SV won't fit. It is the standard T3 outlet style. They have a different bolt pattern and can not be interchanged.

How long ago was that shadow? Have you had any other failures? Heard of anyone whose turbos are running well? I'm not for or against these things, just that some products get a bad rap and never kick it, even when they improve quality dramatically. Also others get a good reputation without ever being a decent product.

That makes 3 cases I've heard of these things failing. I've also had 15 broken mitsubishi turbos pass through my hands. DSM guys all want 16G turbos, haven't they heard about the 10 mitsu turbos I've had that shredded the crap out of their compressor housings? 3 of them were recent mopar remans even! I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but my Chinese socket sets have outlasted all of my craftsman ones

[Shadow]

The turbo was brought to me a month and a half ago. He bought it from ebay as a "57 trim T04e hybrid". One look and it's NOT a 57 trim at all, ends up somewhere between a 40-46 trim (doesn't measure the same as any REAL Garrett) I'm going to have it knocked down as soon as I get the chance, just to see exactly what the failure was, but the compressor damage has nothing to do with housing contact. It looks like they just fatiged and bent over. Oh ya, it has about 3000 miles on it, and it seemed to work alright in the begining.

[flatlander757]

Maybe a vendor could custom make a header for you with whatever flange you want so you can use the more common turbos?

Just an idea:)

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by tryingbe I didn't say TII turbo. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garre...91268163QQrdZ1

No way in the world that turbo would work.
1.32 a/r and a 3" exducer lol

[Ondonti]

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Originally Posted by Shadow The turbo was brought to me a month and a half ago. He bought it from ebay as a "57 trim T04e hybrid". One look and it's NOT a 57 trim at all, ends up somewhere between a 40-46 trim (doesn't measure the same as any REAL Garrett) I'm going to have it knocked down as soon as I get the chance, just to see exactly what the failure was, but the compressor damage has nothing to do with housing contact. It looks like they just fatiged and bent over. Oh ya, it has about 3000 miles on it, and it seemed to work alright in the begining.

Did you check to see if it was even a garret?

Probably a KKK style turbo.

[Shadow]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti Did you check to see if it was even a garret? Probably a KKK style turbo.

Garrett? It's an XS power POS, but it was sold as a 57 trim To4e, which it is deff. NOT!

[tryingbe]

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Originally Posted by Ondonti No way in the world that turbo would work. 1.32 a/r and a 3" exducer lol

It's an example of what you can buy.
You can also mate the T4 compressor side to the T3 exhaust side.

[tryingbe]

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Originally Posted by tkelly27 There was one instence of the compressor cover coming "unglued". There was one instance of the manifold cracking, but that was due to a post manufacturing piss poor weld holding up a Holset turbo on a Honduh. If all ebay parts broke like this, there should be multiple threads and websites dedicated to it, but all you see referenced are these two glaring problems.

Found this just for you.
http://media.putfile.com/Turbo-explosion

[desertsnake1991]

I wonder how much of the shrapnel made it to the bottom of his oil pan, or out the whole length of the exhaust????? Nasty!

[tkelly27]

Weird, the owner of the video says "the turbo was a PTE T70 not a "generic ebay turbo"" I assume he also owns the car or knows who owns the car since he posted it.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/ind...?topic=78799.0
I don't think anyone who spends $20k on a long block is going to be buying an ebay turbo... So it can happen to even the most reputable and drooled over units.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...=ebay+manifold
Look for posts by GrandLordKhorne
That is what I'm looking for. Having someone who actually knows what they are doing looking at it from an objective point of view.

I think the final conclusion was that it was worth the $$ for the manifold, but you do get what you pay for as compared to other custom manifolds.

I'd like to see someone go through the turbos with an objective and scientific mind saying "these turbos are truly awful" rather than sending me the same old links to the Honduh forums with the "glued together" compressor wheel. It may wind up that the only thing that is truly wrong with the ebay turbos are the bearings, or the shaft. In that case, a $75 fix would turn a $180 turbo into a $1000 turbo. Or, they could be completely unworkable and the $175 piles of crap everyone assumes they are.

Actually, in the near future I'm going to drop the $$ to get a cheap ass ebay turbo. If I push it real hard, I'll make sure to A: be wearing eye protection (and maybe a cup!), and B: have my camera at the ready : D

I want to get a split housing and make a variable A/R butterfly valve, but that's a subject for a different thread... (think T4 frame turbo on a DD 16V 2.5 )

[aaron7]

GrandLordKhorne knows what he's talking about. He's done lots of work on my cars. Funny how I hear his name on TD forum when I know him from the MR2 forums!