My new (lol) 1988 Dodge shadow ES - 56k beware.

[itsbudda]

for a DD, gas whoring isn't such a good idea. At least not till the white house loses the oil regime. For someone that's built big blocks his whole life, the turbo bug sure bit you.

[Paradox]

yup

[Paradox]

hmmm... seem to have hit a snag... I think the piston rod I got from moparfwdsleeper is bad :/

Tourqe everything down, sept' #1 and it spins free and when I do it, blam, nothing. Brand new bearings too.

[moparfwdsleeper]

couldnt be the rods or pistons, all the internals, block, head, head internals came out of the car into a machine shop. Any and everything that went there that wasnt good or repairable had been replaced.

[turbomini]

do you have a extra rod sitting around? if so try it on the bearing...it might be the bearing is bigger..which would be the resion why it locks up..

[Paradox]

Tried 3 bearings :/

new cleavite 77's, one from the same rod from the engine it was pulled from and the set from the first crank

this thing just hates me -_-

I can't afford a new head gasket so lawd

[90vntShadow]

Check your crank journal for any burrs or nicks, same with bearings and rod and cap.
Measure the crank journal with a micrometer and make sure it is in spec, you can do the same with the rod end with the cap torqued. Make sure you have the matching rod cap it should line up perfect without the bearing. After all this, get some plastigage put the bearing in the rod put the plastigage on the crank and put the rod on the crank and torque to specs, now dissasemble and measure the plastigage to see what your bearing clearance is should be. Make sure your bearing clearance is within spec. If all this checks out it should be good. It is always a good idea to check all your rod bearing clearances with plastigage to make sure your clearances are good. You clould even have the wrong bearing by mistake. Good luck.

[turbomini]

well do you have a extra rod? lol

[moparfwdsleeper]

you dont need a new head gasket, valve cover gasket, etc. nothing has been through a head cycle

does the crank turn at all?

[Paradox]

yeah... piston has to come out the top though...

[Paradox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by moparfwdsleeper you dont need a new head gasket, valve cover gasket, etc. nothing has been through a head cycle does the crank turn at all?

quite easy without that rod torqued down

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90vntShadow Check your crank journal for any burrs or nicks, same with bearings and rod and cap. Measure the crank journal with a micrometer and make sure it is in spec, you can do the same with the rod end with the cap torqued. Make sure you have the matching rod cap it should line up perfect without the bearing. After all this, get some plastigage put the bearing in the rod put the plastigage on the crank and put the rod on the crank and torque to specs, now dissasemble and measure the plastigage to see what your bearing clearance is should be. Make sure your bearing clearance is within spec. If all this checks out it should be good. It is always a good idea to check all your rod bearing clearances with plastigage to make sure your clearances are good. You clould even have the wrong bearing by mistake. Good luck.

I checked it over and over again and I can't find anything wrong with the crank, plastiguage says .0017 under the cap

[turbomini]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradox yeah... piston has to come out the top though...

what i'm saying is take the rod off the cranks push it to the top of the bore.. and take the differnt rod and put it on the same bearing and turque it down and try to sping the rod on the crank.....or look at it like this you'll have one really fast 3 cylinder lol JK but good luck

[moparfwdsleeper]

does it rotate any with the rods torques down? what are you torquing them to?

[Paradox]

Quote:

Originally Posted by moparfwdsleeper does it rotate any with the rods torques down? what are you torquing them to?

yes
40fp

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbomini what i'm saying is take the rod off the cranks push it to the top of the bore.. and take the differnt rod and put it on the same bearing and turque it down and try to sping the rod on the crank.....or look at it like this you'll have one really fast 3 cylinder lol JK but good luck

Guess I could, lol

[turbomini]

this might also sound kinda stupid but have toy tryed to plasta(what ever its called) the side of the rod? it might only grab on the side of the crank... or you have a bad crank. the one out my mini i had the crank was tweeked just a little bit and made the bearing wear really weird...