Max t1 Boost? Stock Boost? and other questions

[Dodgevanman]

Ok to start im new to tubos and boost and 2.2's i am purchesing a 1989 2.2 non turbo Auto Dodge Omni. I am wondering what is the stock boost for a t1? What is max boost for a t1? Best boost out of a t1 for street use every day driving? Max Boost for t2? i plan to intercool it! and i want to keap costs down! Oh also how do u incress boost? Sorry ive serched and serched and cant find this info so any help would be apriciated!!!

THANKS
DODGEVANMAN

[EvilcowRoland]

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It's easier to have you read through that first before anyone tries relaying information to you. There's a lot you can do with these cars. Just need to have the basics down first.

'89 is a good year for an Omni conversion. Should make it pretty easy. But I'm not a big L-body guy so hopefully someone will chime in.

[Dodgevanman]

Cool thanks I have read that and understand the basics! just wondering about this stuff so i know what i should do. THANKS


*EDIT* More looking on that sight founed the info need except for how to icress boost...

[85daytona]

You need a G valve.look at Welcome to FWD Performance, Inc. $25 I think? or search google for dawes devices Good luck

[Dodgevanman]

THANKS I guess the last question i have is how well with the auto trans hold up in a 89 omni?

*EDIT*

Ok I think I know what i want to do i know where a turbo caravan is (year unknown) I think it a 88 but i am uncetian the motor was rebuilt and only has 5,000miles on it what i was thinking of doing was pull the motor and all the wiring harness and put it in the omni (keap the stock auto 3speed trans for now) intercool it, put a g-valve on it run like 15lbs of boost and 2 1/2 inch exust all the way through with a dynomax turbo muffler. so my question is will the trans hold up? if 15lbs of boost a good streetable amout if intercooled? Any other sugestion i want to get a 85-87 t1 turbo and do the t2conversion to it...any power suggestions? any suggestions at all? THANKS

[Dodgevanman]

So what you guys think I need ur expert opinions.. I hope it will work

[shellboy]

i think you should start with a turbo car first. cause your gonna have to change a whole lotta stuff over to make it turbo..

[87dtna]

You'll need to swap engine bay harness's and a minivan's harness isn't real compatable with an Omni. The tranny on minivans are stronger, as long as it's a healthy trans you shouldn't have a problem with intercooling the engine and 15 PSI.

[Dodgevanman]

What is "Not real Compatabile" new to this stuff sorry...So would i need to finda glht or glhs harness? or like a shelby charger or would a labarons work better?

[EvilcowRoland]

Your Omni's trans isn't as strong as a turbo unit. You could get away with running low boost on it for a while, but 15 lbs will likely grenade it. You'd want the trans from the van if possible. It should be okay at 15 if you put a good cooler on it and don't make a habit of beating on it.

If the van is an 89 then its harness would plug into your Omni, but it is much shorter and won't make it through the firewall. You might want to find one from a Spirit or Shadow. You will have to rewire the lights and I think the windshield wiper circuit. Someone that's done the conversion will have to chime in there. A GLHS or T will have an older electronics setup. You could convert the whole car to work, but it'd be easier to use an 88 or 89 harness.

And just a note, the stock turbo MAP sensors will only allow 14.7 lbs of boost. That's the PSI equivalent of 2 bars of pressure which is all they're calibrated for. To run higher boost you'd need a 3-bar MAP or you'd need to bypass the MAP with a diode. There's been lots of posts on it so it shouldn't be hard to do. But until you're more familiar with how these cars work and what things to watch for, best to leave the boost setting to the computer's control.

It is much easier to just start with a turbo car, but it's very possible to convert your Omni. It's a good learning experience too. Make sure you have a donor car (the van in this case would be ok though you will need some Omni specific parts) and also make sure you cover all your bases as you go: wiring harness, sensors, fuel pump, trans, exhaust, AXLES (Omni specific), and the computer.

[Dodgevanman]

Oh i didnt know you have to change the axles to! how big of a deal is not doing that?

[Marcus86GLHS]

i think we all can admire your project goals. i know i do.

but for a newbie, the worst way to begin is to buy a regular omni and convert it to a turbo setup with 15 lbs of boost, its just so much work and parts and knowledge and so much that can go wrong with the wrong selections, which like i said is a great way to learn, and very do-able for a experienced td person..... but maybe you might want to step back and seriously consider buying an omni glh turbo or another turbo dodge. the cost savings alone combined with the time savings and the asprin savings makes that a very attractive alternative. then, you can focus on making that turbo car much better rather than re-inventing the wheel so to speak.

either way, the people on this site are some of the best with guidance. good luck.

[Dodgevanman]

Ok Thanks guys

[Dodgevanman]

Well I did what you guys sayed i found a 1985 Dodge 600 Turbo Convertible
Dodge 600 Stock for now......THIS AINT NO LABARON!

[EvilcowRoland]

That looks pretty good considering how most people abuse the K cars and especially the convertibles. You can clean that up and make it into a decent little car.

I know the 84's had a weird setup on the turbos. I think they changed it before the 85 models went out. I want to say there was something weird about 85's though too. Maybe not. I'm mostly a common block and up guy, so I'm not as familiar with the older setups.

Does the car run? Mind if I ask how much you got it for?