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Old 01-19-2008, 01:42 AM   #1
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I've recently acquired an 87 shelby lancer with an auto. After opening up the piping before the airbox I can hear that the compressor is surging its ass off. I pulled off the inlet pipe when I was replacing the starter and theres definitely play in the shaft. My question is. Where can I find a replacement turbo? The other side to that is, if I wanted to upgrade to a different turbo, whats the best way to get a t3 flange so I have more options for turbos?? I know a slightly larger wheel will create a longer spool but I'm wondering if the stock turbo now is even spooling up on time. I don't feel it til almost 4k rpms, that can't be right. The exhaust housing can fit in my hand, lol. Any info on t3 swaps would be great.
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Can't answer any questions about mods,but the best place to buy turbos is turbocity.com
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:49 AM   #3
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You can get your turbo rebuild by one of the turbo shops.

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I've shopped several Turbo places had two from Majestic(junk) and two that I sent back to FWD Perf.Got best deal from turbocity.com.I like FWD Perf,but I really got fed up with changing turbos that smoked.I even rebuilt a near new engine thinking I could'nt have gotten two bad turbos in a row from FWD.
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Sounds good. What about switching over to a t3 flanged manifold??
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I have a ported exhaust manifold with T3 flanged holes drilled on the chrysler flange. $90 shipped to you.
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Just a quick related question; Has anyone tried using one of the dirty cheap JDM turbo selling on Ebay? Some of them claim to be t3/t4, and are selling for less than $200.

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I've recently acquired an 87 shelby lancer with an auto. After opening up the piping before the airbox I can hear that the compressor is surging its ass off. I pulled off the inlet pipe when I was replacing the starter and theres definitely play in the shaft. My question is. Where can I find a replacement turbo? The other side to that is, if I wanted to upgrade to a different turbo, whats the best way to get a t3 flange so I have more options for turbos?? I know a slightly larger wheel will create a longer spool but I'm wondering if the stock turbo now is even spooling up on time. I don't feel it til almost 4k rpms, that can't be right. The exhaust housing can fit in my hand, lol. Any info on t3 swaps would be great.
The computer from the factory opens the wastegate below 4,000 RPMs to slow spool up and restrict boost level. Buy a custom cal, not a Mopar performace cal as they do it too. The FWD cal with an auto trans rocks.

if you let off the gas hard after boosting you'll here a surge through the compressor of the turbo because the T2 cars didn't have a BOV.

A brand new S60 turbo does have a larger compressor, true, but the turbine is larger. The stock turbine wheels have a big gap between the turbine and the housing. So they leak exhaust instead of spool the turbo. If you want stock replacement and a better turbo I would buy a S60 with a stage 1 turbine and a .48 housing with an auto trans.

The turbine wheels from the factory are wasted and the oil seal ring rides in the turbine shaft. Don't ever rebuild a turbo without buying a new stage 1 turbine wheel. At the price of a rebuilt turbo with a new turbine, just buy the new Turbonetics turbo. Restoring the car to look stock? Buy new wheels, and center section and turbine housing and wastegate SV. Only reuse the compressor housing, it'll have to be made but will be new.

Soke all of your IC lines and the IC in super clean and get all the crud out. Better yet take off the IC and take it to a rad shop and have it cleaned right. My IC on my CSX is plugged and is a mess.

Remember that if you have an old turbo thats rebuilt, that wasn't getting hardly any oil first time around is sloppy. Then you add the nice oil lines to save the new rebuild with lots of oil flow. Oops the thing leaks like crazy It is easy to rebuild a turbo, but most are junk because the factory oil lines clog. New SS lines and a new turbo and no more leaks and the turbo may just out live the old Dodge.
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Just a quick related question; Has anyone tried using one of the dirty cheap JDM turbo selling on Ebay? Some of them claim to be t3/t4, and are selling for less than $200.

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There actually a CDM, not JDM lol. Some use them and they are ok. But they are a ton of work as they don't bolt on. So you do a bunch of fab work and end up with a 3rd rate or worse quality turbo. The only thing I would even consider them for is a Spirit R/T as they use them. But not on an 8v
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