TI Inlet change

[yogurtslinger]

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Originally posted by 87GLHS208 what I think is funny is the laminar flow comments... lets see... compressed air exits the turbo compressor outlet, and enters some piping/tubing. Somewhere in this tubing is a rubber connector... with uneven edges... then into a freakin intercooler, hmmm, yup, *lots* of laminar flow in an intercooler... then into more tubing, and more rubber connectors, and more edges, and then into the tb with a butterfly, and then into the intake manifold with 4 evenly spaced, rough cast, runners into the engine... yup, laminar flow helps alot in this situation clay

hehe smartass

[87GLHS465]

I know I know... being an engineer has its disadvantages...

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Originally posted by yogurtslinger hehe smartass

[87GLHS465]

Apples vs. oranges.

Now your throwing a straightner into the mix. with out the air flow straightner your going to need a long straight section of pipe before the turbo inlet to acheive anything close to laminar flow, which, unless someone cuts a hole in the drives side fender and extends a pipe straight from the turbo inlet, out the hole, isnt going to happen.

Then to maintain anything close to laminar flow you will need a good straight shot out of the compressor outlet to yet again acheive anything close to laminar flow, but just before it bends into the intercooler.

Clay

[87GLHS465]

Im not trying to make this too complicated, but like I said in my previous post.... your good adapter vs your cheap adapter will make little difference unless you have a large section of straight pipe (as in FEET) before you enter the turbo.

Unless you can do that, good vs. cheap adapters will make little difference.

I tell you what. If you GIVE me each adapter, I will dyno each one, if I can keep them. That will be the definative answer.


Clay

[87GLHS465]

No problem, you will probably be to a dyno before I will!!! Considering I was just at one this past weekend!

Clay

[gdonovan]

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Originally posted by Chris W Thank You for the offer, but, we will do the comparison ourselves the next time we visit Dyno-Comp. Chris

I think independent verification is an excellent idea.

Oh BTW- INDY cars use a "tumbler" device to get the air spinning before it reaches the turbo inlet and have been using them for years. I can post a picture of the assembly if you like.

Perhaps diesel engines are different, but then again we race gas engines.

Gary

[yogurtslinger]

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Originally posted by Chris W This is common knowledge in the industry. Chris

oh ****...here we go again. Wait a minute lets see if this works here to.



BOOBIES!!!!!!!




anyone feeling better now? I am

[glhsken]

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Originally posted by yogurtslinger oh ****...here we go again. Wait a minute lets see if this works here to. BOOBIES!!!!!!! anyone feeling better now? I am

LOL... wait... wait...





DING DING.. round 2 is about to begin!!!!

Good points Clay....

[gaboon]

I'm tired of watching and hearing TD vendors fight amoung themselves. I appreciate all TD vendors. They all bring something to the table that benifits us all. Quit the bashing! Sell your stuff let the customers judge whats worth the money. Why waste time criticizing others, when you could spend your time perfecting your own products.

[gdonovan]

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Originally posted by glhsken DING DING.. round 2 is about to begin!!!!

LOL, not on my end.

If someone wishes to continue to make a fool of himself in public they can do it without my help.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/turbo_sae_22.html

[gdonovan]

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Originally posted by gaboon I'm tired of watching and hearing TD vendors fight amoung themselves.

I have a problem with sales people with no race experience handing out misinformation.

You should too since ultimately you pay for it.

[gdonovan]

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Originally posted by Chris W So what you are basically saying then Gary is that all the S-D road racers out there are not true racers at all because they don't drag race? That's a pretty arrogant statement for a vendor. Road racing is much more demanding on engine and chassis components then drag racing is and about 10 times as expensive. Our products are tested on our vehicles for five 20 minute heats per day of all out balls to the wall racing. If the product can withstand that type of abuse it can surely stand an mid-11 second run an a K-car. Just because all of us don't drag race doesn't mean we aren't dedicated to auto racing. Chris

What I'm saying is salesmen with no personal race experience should not be handing out advice about turbocharger selection in a race application.

You would agree that would be a prudent yes?

I mean how would the salesman know what worked or didn't unless they actually pulled wrenches, collected data or raced the car right?

[gdonovan]

Since you are an expert in the field perhaps you could advise on the proper turbo selection for my Reliant?

After all it's only cranking out over 400 hp at the wheels and I'd really like to hit 500 wheel hp.

Thoughts?

[gdonovan]

> Where do you get this stuff Gary? What makes you think I don't race, pull wrenches and collect data?

Who said I was talking about you Chris?

> Are we having trouble Gary?

With in excess of 400 dyno proven wheel hp?

Not on your life buddy.

Still have not answered the question- What turbo would you suggest Chris?

Everyone is waiting.

Gary

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Originally posted by gdonovan Since you are an expert in the field perhaps you could advise on the proper turbo selection for my Reliant? After all it's only cranking out over 400 hp at the wheels and I'd really like to hit 500 wheel hp. Thoughts?

hmm. can i get some head flow numbers?
maybee some VE numbers? desiered RPM?
im thinking T3 .82 turbine side. stage 3 wheel.
TO4 compressor AR depends... maybee a V trim wheel? let me check some some numbers.. flow numbers would help here. so i can figure air flow over bar to place the wheel in a nice effeciency zone.. just tring to help gary.. BTW 400proven.. im dying to see the dyno.. (lack jawed in anticipation) i have quite a few qn's a dyno sheet would asnwer( nothing in a negitive conitation there!!. just ignorant curiosity)

and dont get mad at me chris im not " in gary's corner" by any means.. your thermostat housing just arrived today..



seriously guys we need all the vendors we can get...
competitiveness keeps R&D up and prices reasonable..
always buyer beware. and anybody that plops hard earned cash down for some hard parts with out doing reasearch and understanding somewhat what they are getting, is either dumb and dimbwitted, or has ALOT more money to waste(spend) than i have..

calm down.. smoke a big one..
and for the love of ***, BOOBIES!