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Old 09-16-2004, 05:42 PM   #121
 
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How about my turbo? Likey?!

It's getting an external wastegate setup because I don't wanna fool with internal and the unreliable boost control I've always had.

It's a tight fit I must say. phew

Hahhahha, nice turbo also Chris, I likey,

Mine was a tight fit also, the hardest part was hooking up the coolant line and making the wastegate can fit. Whats your a/r? I am sure its in here somewhere to but to lazy to look
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Old 09-16-2004, 06:57 PM   #122
 
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Hahhahha, nice turbo also Chris, I likey,

Mine was a tight fit also, the hardest part was hooking up the coolant line and making the wastegate can fit. Whats your a/r? I am sure its in here somewhere to but to lazy to look
Oil/coolant lines aren't a problem for me...I'm going with an external wastegate.

.68 A/R turbine with stage 3 wheel. Full T04E compressor and 57-trim wheel.
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Old 09-16-2004, 08:58 PM   #123
 
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chris, is this a different motor? i thought you had a tbi header.... maybe im thinking about someone else....

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Old 09-16-2004, 09:10 PM   #124
 
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chris, is this a different motor? i thought you had a tbi header.... maybe im thinking about someone else....

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No sir you are on the right track. I sold the TBI header becuase I was tired of the grief it caused with the fit/placement of the turbo. I'm also getting a new head done by Steve Menegon! woooo woooo

I know I'm loosing some flow, but I have no problem making that sacrifice. The manifold will flow quite nicely when I'm finished with it!

Also...I'm going back to a more stock setup overall so that explains the change.
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Old 10-01-2004, 01:36 PM   #125
 
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Help me get my head on straight about this! All else being equal, when you change from a stock to a stage two turbine wheel, what happens?
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:46 PM   #126
 
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So how does having a suck-through setup change the matching of a compressor wheel to an engine, and when you're near the surge limit?

My uneducated reasoning would be that when you're using a blow-through throttle body in part-throttle boost, from the turbo's point of view you're just making your volumetric efficiency go to shit. The PR will stay the same as it would be at WOT since atmospheric is still the same and the wastegate still keeps manifold pressure the same. However, since the throttle body isn't fully open, you're reducing your airflow. Constant pressure ratio + decreasing air flow rate = moving left along a horizontal line on the pressure map, toward the surge line.

I can't figure out what's happening with a suck-through turbo, though. As you close the throttle, you're incrasing your pressure ratio because the wastegate tries to keep boost, the numerator, constant while the throttle body reduces "atmospheric pressure", the denominator. The turbo has to "suck harder" to keep boost constant. However, as the throttle body closes, air flow will also decrease. Eventually engine demand will overtake air flow and boost will start to decrease. This seems like a complicated balancing act.

Where's the tipping point in that process? I've noticed when driving my suck-through car that there's a point of part-throttle at which the car can develop full boost. Let's call it XXX.

With less throttle than XXX, the boost goes down corresponding with the throttle closing-we're choking off the engine and turbo. However, with more throttle than XXX, the engine still seems to pull harder, despite boost staying constant.

That doesn't make sense because power output corresponds to air flow and air flow corresponds to manifold absolute pressure. Since more throttle than XXX doesn't increase manifold pressure, how can it create more power? I'm stumped. : HELP!
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Old 06-29-2005, 04:18 PM   #127
 
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Anyone ever look at an SRT 4 map? Compare it to a world map and the first island is Japan and the SRT 4 at high boost point is over by Hawii.
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