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Old 02-22-2013, 07:49 PM   #1
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I have a 1993 Dodge Spirit ES with a 2.5L L4 150CI naturally aspirated engine in it now. I want to swap it for either a SRT-4 out of a Neon, or a 2.2 Turbo III out of a Spirit R/T. Which would fit and would be better for the car and easy to maintain?
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I want to say TIII because will bolt in with stock mounts and no modifications. Im sure someone else can give you better detailed info.
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I want to say TIII because will bolt in with stock mounts and no modifications. Im sure someone else can give you better detailed info.
That a boy! I would say the TIII any day! But thats what im best at...

He is correct about the TIII drivetrain bolting right in. If you use a 92 Spirit R/T engine bay harness and computer it will pulg and play with your existing body harness and function correctly. The 91 will work but with some modifications.
Is your car and auto or 5spd?
Do you already have a line a a Spirit R/T?
If so I would get a complete parts car as there are many things you would want out of the R/T like the bigger brakes and such. Give us some more info on what you got and we can tell you exactly what you will need to do....
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:33 PM   #4
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Where is he going to find this unicorn engine you're suggesting he swap in?
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Well there is the 8v 2.2 or 2.5. Or the hybrid as well. I'm somewhat biased toward the 8 valve engines. Someday I will have to drive a TIII. Might change my mind. I believe a high boost 2.2 or 2.5 8v can be respectable. I agree, TIII can be hard to find.
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The biggest problem with using a tIII in a swap is going to be the amount of money you put into a 1993 dodge spirit just to get it running on a swap. You either need to find a cheap donor (and theres a pretty good chance it would be way easier to fix the donor and just drive it) or buy the parts from some guy who doesnt know what they are worth before one of the thousands of people who do know what they're worth beats you to it.

If it were me, i'd swap in a non-turbo 2.4 to your stock trans, and get your engine manangement figured out first. After the engine management is all in place, i would add the turbo setup. If and when you ever break it (depending on your tuning and other things) i would upgrade the bottom end. That's just me.
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I have an automatic transmission is my car.
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Where is he going to find this unicorn engine you're suggesting he swap in?
Ya,I know,it sounded cool but probably not very realistic
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yes, better off selling the es and just buying a spirit r/t for the most cost effective swap...
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with mild mount mods the 2.4 turbo mounts to the 2.5 trans. This means that the 3 trans mounts (stick) or 2 mounts (auto) fit making a modded 2.5 front bracket some what easy. Then use the 90's NA aluminum engine bracket with the gen 1 Neon adapter and mod the bracket to make it fit.

Then buy Megasquirt for near plug and play. There will be custom lines and so on, but getting it in there isn't that bad. The wiring to add Megasquirt isn't that bad either.

So the 2.4 is the best engine swap choice. But your not getting the rest of the goods like selling the car and buying a R/T to begin with.
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the 2.4 is a nice power plant, but i say go TIII also. should be able to get what you need between cars being parted and the vendors. don't forget to replace the steel plugs in that Lotus head with ones made from a soft metal. and if you build an engine, make it a 2.5 stroker. it will be about as good as the SRT-4 swap power wise. i hear you can hang the crank angle sensor on the front of the engine (distributer-less ignition) for the auto trans, but a better idea would be to turn that ES into a full R/T clone, install a 568 (or 568/523 hybrid if you run the 2.5 crank) and upgrade the front brakes to the 11" units.
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I recently logged on been a mopar fan since the late 60s I put a 392 motor n trans and the rear end from a 75 dollar 57 Imperial crown in to a 75 dollar 52 chevy club coupe and drove the car, dad owned a small salvage yard. Thats when I was 17 Now many mopars later, very long list, I picked up a 83 scamp solid that I picked up that had been a converted to all electric, donated to school who went another way. I own a 92 spirit RT any one know how the rt motor would swap in the scamp or some one making a rear wheel drive, my welding skills have improved since 1968 summer. .
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