OK, what makes our turbos so special?

[shelbyluvinfool]

I know they are water and oil cooled, but what else? What's stopping me from sourcing and building my own t3/T04e hybrid? Or can I? I'm CHEAP!!

[lametec]

The manifold flange bolt pattern is specific to Chrysler.

Only the TIII had a standard "square" bolt pattern.

[shelbyluvinfool]

What is involved in "rearranging" the mounting flange for a more standard set-up. What other turbos could you look at hen?

[OmniGuy123]

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Originally posted by shelbyluvinfool What is involved in "rearranging" the mounting flange for a more standard set-up. What other turbos could you look at hen?

I think that the VNT manifolds are a standard T3.

[SwiftTech]

vnt's are still the chrysler bolt pattern. they just used one or two studs in place if bolts.

[shelbyluvinfool]

ok, so how do I spec and build my own turbo? I know I can do it cheaper than what I can buy one for. I have some pretty good turbo "gurus" local to me for assistance.

[shelbyluvinfool]

what about a custom header, or modifying the stock manifold for a difefrent flange? It's done all the time.
I'm just thinking it would open up a whole new world of possibilities! I'm sure I'm not thinking anything new here, given how long these cars have been around, just wondering why it is or isn't possible!

Hack the stock flange off, weld a new flange on. Whatever bolt pattern you want.

Or, like you said, build a custom manifold. Totally possible, but people will piss and whine about how your design sucks and how you'd get N horsepower if you would have done it differantly.. Blah blah. If it works, it works..

Also, you can use the turbonetics 0.63 turbine housing. They still make it, i believe, and it's still availible from a few TD vendors. It has the right pattern on it.

If it was me, i'd just stick to the stock T3 for a while. People have run into the 12's with it, so it's not exactly a bad turbo. If you have a mitsu right now, it'd be a great upgrade.

[shelbyluvinfool]

I have a stock Garrett T3, but it won't flow enough for me...I'm aiming for 115 traps one day, and the stock T3 ain't gonna cut it. Might as well get rid of the T3 while I can get some $$ for it, and start with the right turbo, hence the want for a T3/T04E 50 trim with the .63
I don't care what anyone says about my combo if it works!

[ToiboTonaZee]

I hacked my existing studs off, milled the entire flange, drilled, tapped and installed new studs to the regular T3 flange pattern.

[shelbyluvinfool]

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Originally posted by ToiboTonaZee I hacked my existing studs off, milled the entire flange, drilled, tapped and installed new studs to the regular T3 flange pattern.

Any pix?
Any problems?

[ToiboTonaZee]

no pics no.
Problems, well if i did it myself i would of had problems. I cut the studs off, machine shop milled the flange and drilled/tapped holes. Make sure a good machine shop does this so the holes are nice and straight and square. If there off at all it will give you headaches for years to come.

Picture in your head what the flange would look like with this done to it...thats exactly what it looks like.

[turbovanman]

I made a plate out of 1/2 plate, bolted it to the manifold and ground down the lower portion and also the manifold, essentially lowering the turbo 1/2 or so. Then drilled 2 new lower holes, one upper hole and used one original stud on the turbo and one to hold the plate down. So far, 22000 kms and still works awesome!

[shelbyluvinfool]

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Originally posted by turbovanman I made a plate out of 1/2 plate, bolted it to the manifold and ground down the lower portion and also the manifold, essentially lowering the turbo 1/2 or so. Then drilled 2 new lower holes, one upper hole and used one original stud on the turbo and one to hold the plate down. So far, 22000 kms and still works awesome!

Any pix or diagrams, I'm a little slow, so I'm not sure I'm following?

[turbovanman]

No pics but will try to draw something then post it.