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Old 03-27-2005, 02:41 PM   #1
Oh, great. Oil all through my intake. Now what?  
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A few weeks ago, my upper intercooler hose blew off at the throttlebody. I pulled over and put it back on and tightened the hose clamps. I noticed it felt kind of spongy. Last week at an autocross, it blew off again and split a little. This time, I noticed there was a good bit of oil on it, thus the sponginess. Both times I was at 11 psi. I've been noticing lately that the turbo seems to chatter a bit when I let off the throttle, and it's audible above the noise of the BOV.

Today, I went for a drive, and when I came back, I started taking the hoses off. There was oil in the intercooler. So I looked where I'd had problems before, and sure enough, there was oil in the throttle body. Down a bit, there was oil on the transmission, which I'd cleaned off good back in January. I fiugre it either got blown there after dripping out of the lower IC hose, or from where the upper hose meets the throttlebody. 30 minutes later, the oil pool in the IC had gotten bigger, probably from the oil the poor thing is trying to shove up the tubes draining back down. There's even oil before the inlet. There's a fair amount of shaft play, too, but it doesn't seem like the vanes are hitting the housing.

I'm used to oil leaks--I've also got a V6--but this turbo is a rebuild that's just 4 months old, and I'm losing a quart every 1000 miles or so. I had a valve job done on the head when I put the turbo on and inspected it myself (and replaced all the lifters), so I don't think that big blue cloud that comes out my tailpipe every morning is coming from the valves. Do Mitsu turbos usually do this, or is this thing dying? If so, is there anything I can do to prolong its life? I use Mobil 1, so would switching back to dino oil slow the leakage down?
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if you have oil in your inlet of the turbo, I'm guessing it could be a faulty PCV system. It may be blowing oil into your air filter housing and getting sucked up into the turbo.

How did the filter look?

This may not be the exact reason, but it's at least one more thing to look at.
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if you have oil in your inlet of the turbo, I'm guessing it could be a faulty PCV system. It may be blowing oil into your air filter housing and getting sucked up into the turbo.

How did the filter look?
Just checked. The breather filter is positively saturated. Good call.

I feel a lot better now. The next queston would be how do I fix it. Allpar's got a page on it, so I guess I'll start there. Thanks.
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Time for a rebuild.
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Maybe not. He may have a stuck PCV valve that's allowing boost to pressurize the hose between the valve cover and the filter housing.
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Maybe not. He may have a stuck PCV valve that's allowing boost to pressurize the hose between the valve cover and the filter housing.

Really? I’d think the boost pressure would push the PCV ball closed. If did get stuck up I would think if anything it would just pressurize the motor and the airbox. Then blow oil out of the cam seals, rear main, etc… How does it happen? How many times have you seen it?

Also how many miles on the short block? While it’s running pull the oil cap and see how much air is coming out.
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Also how many miles on the short block? While it’s running pull the oil cap and see how much air is coming out.
It's got 110K or so. I can feel hot gas coming out when I open the oil fill cap, but my static compression's 110-122-114-117 hot, same as it was when I put it in. There's no piston slap, and no smoke except when I start it up. It's tired, but it's within spec. The PCV valve moves freely and resists pressure, so I think I'm just going to go with frequent filter changes and maybe rig up an oil catcher.

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