Garage Storage Organization and Garage Cabinets

shelbyz2342 · **windage tray?**

has anybody made a windage tray for a 2.5? i'm looking for ideas befor i start to make one, so anyone with pictures would be great.

Dez · 01-29-2007, 07:47 AM

Yeah, here is a good one i might try and do.

http://polybushings.com/pages/oilpan2.html

86Tona · 01-29-2007, 07:33 PM

Look at the pictures on Gary's site. Lots of ideas there to consider.

dodge80_89 · 01-29-2007, 09:21 PM

Try http://www.crank-scrapers.com/. They have a pretty nice set up, you have to remove the balance shafts. My engine builder couldn't believe I got it for the price they offer for the quality it is.

**bansheenut420** · 01-30-2007, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dodge80_89

Try http://www.crank-scrapers.com/. They have a pretty nice set up, you have to remove the balance shafts. My engine builder couldn't believe I got it for the price they offer for the quality it is.

Same here. I have one on my RT and its excellent quality! FWD performance carries them as well...

shelbyz2342 · 01-30-2007, 08:22 AM

well my balance shafts are history, i'm going to fab up one some time this week,l'll post some pics.something like the baffles you see for sale on fwd performance

shelbyz2342 · 01-31-2007, 10:57 AM

well,i just bought a crank scraper from fwd performance, i just figured it would be easier and would cut down on time til the car is back on the road

86Tona · 01-31-2007, 11:50 AM

I know that the crank scraper helps keep oil off the rotating crank and thus helps retain what would be otherwise lost HP. But does it reduce the oiling at all? My main concern is the thrust bearing surfaces. I can't imagine it does but over thousands and thousands of miles what is the long term effect?

shelbyz2342 · 02-01-2007, 12:36 AM

thrust bearinng is lubricated from internal by the journal and not by just the splash or spray of oil on it
if this was the case, a windage tray would also hurt the thrust bearing by not allowing oil to it.
this is my first experience with a scraper but i can't think it actually make contact with the crank itself

**Blue Iroc R/T** · 02-01-2007, 06:08 AM

Been running this one in Mark's Black Daytona for a couple years now.
http://www.pbase.com/rmscott/baffled_oil_pan

86Tona · 02-01-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by shelbyz2342

thrust bearinng is lubricated from internal by the journal and not by just the splash or spray of oil on it
if this was the case, a windage tray would also hurt the thrust bearing by not allowing oil to it.
this is my first experience with a scraper but i can't think it actually make contact with the crank itself

I figured that the thrust bearing would probably be just fine but what about the wrist pins. These don't get oil any way other than the 'splash' that they receive. I guess the mod to the rod where an 1/8" camphered hole at the top of the rod would help keep some oil in 'reserve' for the oiling of the rod/bushing to wrist pin but what about the wrist pin to piston? By reducing all the splash would these areas receive less oil?

After typing this I just remembered that the crank scraper is not neessarily designed for 'street' daily drivers. It is used for engines where every small HP loss is a bad thing and these prevent that loss. Perhaps they do so at the expense of causing the engine to have a somewhat shortened life due to the extra wear caused by somewhat less oil being avaiable for areas such as the wrist pins and cylinder walls.

Dez · 02-01-2007, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Iroc R/T

Been running this one in Mark's Black Daytona for a couple years now.
http://www.pbase.com/rmscott/baffled_oil_pan

How has that one been working for you?

**Blue Iroc R/T** · 02-01-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dez

How has that one been working for you?

It seems to have been doing very good. He probably has 15K miles on the car with the windage tray installed and no engine problems so far. He can't seem to keep a tranny working in it, but that's a different story. Hopefully the A413 to A568 swap next month with take care of that problem.

**lotashelbys** · 02-01-2007, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Iroc R/T

Hopefully the A413 to A568 swap next month with take care of that problem.

Im sure that will help out a little

Cant wait to do the swap with you guys. Your parts car is ready to be stripped

Dez · 02-01-2007, 12:58 PM

Did he use a different pick-up tube?