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Old 03-24-2008, 02:59 PM   #1
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I am looking at having my CB short block remanufactured at a local shop that comes highly recomended (Austin Jordan Engines in Grand Rapids MI).

They quoted $995 for a complete reman including boring, decking, new pistons (cast), and all other seals and bearings brand new. This also includes a 3 Year unlimited mileage waranty.

My question is, is this a good price for a reman of this quality and what other questions or details should I make sure are being covered for this price? Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:11 PM   #2
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:41 PM   #3
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Sounds good for the price, I think I spent just about that on parts and machining
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Not a bad price if they use quality parts. If they're going to use cast pistons make sure they're stock Mahle pistons or you'll have 4 ash trays very quick and you'll see how well they honor that 3 year waranty.

A few things to make sure are done/checked durning the build.

1. Hot tank the block
2. 1 piece oil pan gasket, the 4 piece is a PITA and a waste of money
3. teflon rear main seal
4. front main seal
5. aux shaft seal
6. freeze plugs ( don't forget the little one on the side.)
7. Check and resize rods with new bolts and bushings
8. Aux shaft bearing
9. Oil pump
10. turn Crank
11. Check and line hone block, resize main caps if needed.
12. Deck block
13. Quality Rod and main bearings
14. Replace main bolts

I'm sure there are other things that I'm missing and some things that are not a necessity but If you ask about resizing rods and line honing a block and they don't know what your talking about I'd start to run.
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Old 03-25-2008, 03:23 AM   #6
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Cast pistons are ok, as long as they're not hypereutectic. (They're JUST ok, nothing more.) Have the crank balanced, at the very least. 2.2's and most, if not all, Chrysler engine blocks are a very high nickel content alloy, so they normally DO NOT need boring. Just have them check the cylinders for roundness with a mic. Other manufacturers use a nickel content similar to Chrysler's in their "racing" blocks.

7. Check and resize rods with new bolts and bushings
*Add*:If Needed

The crank won't need turning unless it's worn out of spec. Not likely with a forged crank, but possible.
Block doesn't necessarily HAVE to be decked, but it should be checked.

Clevite 77 Bearings

NO Fel-Pro headgasket, It's best to use the MP one. 005?

NO Fel-Pro (or any) cork valve cover gasket. (factory end seals & RTV won't leak)
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sounds like an excellent price.....but maybe they can knock it down some by you supplying your own pistons? get forged or you will regret it later....why build something twice? do it right the 1st time

also ARP rod bods are another great investment, @ $30ish
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there is only one cast piston that you can even buy today, the Mahle. If they do not install them as the cast piston the engine won't last. Warrentys count for nothing if you pull the engine every month, and sooner or later they won't stand by the work. They'll give you some BS that the turbo was spiking or something to get out of paying for the melting pistons. So cast is ok as long as they are Mahles only. Forged is nice but $$$$$$
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Cast pistons are ok, as long as they're not hypereutectic. (They're JUST ok, nothing more.) Have the crank balanced, at the very least. 2.2's and most, if not all, Chrysler engine blocks are a very high nickel content alloy, so they normally DO NOT need boring. Just have them check the cylinders for roundness with a mic. Other manufacturers use a nickel content similar to Chrysler's in their "racing" blocks.

7. Check and resize rods with new bolts and bushings
*Add*:If Needed

The crank won't need turning unless it's worn out of spec. Not likely with a forged crank, but possible.
Block doesn't necessarily HAVE to be decked, but it should be checked.

Clevite 77 Bearings

NO Fel-Pro headgasket, It's best to use the MP one. 005?

NO Fel-Pro (or any) cork valve cover gasket. (factory end seals & RTV won't leak)
I have to step in here...

Have the ARPs and new bushings installed. Along with the I-Shaft bushings.

Magnaflux the block, also have it honed.

Pistons, mahle or forged only, id suggest forged for later on use of higher PSI!

on the Clevite 77 bearings!

Fel-pro head gaskets are good if they are properly installed and the surfaced are flat and clean. Jackson(lotashelbys) would recomment the copper spray.

I use the cork on my engine(valve cover and all!) I spray copper spray on both ends and hand tighten the bolts. No leaks
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