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Aries_Turbo · **quick freshening**

honing..... have people had luck with taking a used block, doing a quick hone (real light) and tossing new rings and bearings? (used pistons) i have an 89 CB 2.2 and i have an 87 2.2T1 and an 84 2.2 n/a HO and i want to use the 87 slugs, 84 rods and 89 block they are all around 100k and ran fine, low oil usage yadda yadda yadda... i jsut wonder about peoples success rate on this type of stuff. its a motor for my omni. thanks

Brian

ToiboTonaZee · 10-03-2003, 02:04 AM

I got screwed in the ass with the used block new pistons and rings thing. i didnt hone them because there was pretty deicent cross hatch and my buddy who does engines figured theyd seat fine. GUESS NOT. Anyways take your block to a shop and get it honed.

If i were you id get some 89 Rods MUCH Stronger i think.
Also you might need different pistons i dont know much about them. (floating pin or not etc)

Geoff · 10-03-2003, 04:35 AM

dont mean to rob the post...but what is honing? Is it basicly smoothing out the cylinder walls? After you hone a block can you still use std pistons and rings?

Aries_Turbo · 10-03-2003, 08:48 AM

i was gonna do the used block used piston new ring thing.... i am going to hone the block though but do it myself.... im just curious of if i only rough up the cyl wall, how much does that take off and does it ususally end up with proper clearance or whatnot. i dont want to take it to the shop as this is my 0$ budget project and i have all the parts. ill have to tear down the block and see what the original bore looks like. the motor siezed once (89 tbi block) before i got it and i just tossed a HG on it an ran it for 17k miles before i tossed a low mileage motor in it. its my beater. i wanna s the commonblcok though rather than the 88 2.2 block that i have sitting there. i will be pushing some decent power through it but and i will be checking clearances and stuff but id rather not get oversized slugs and bore it. i just wonder what the success rate has been. thanks

Brian

Aries_Turbo · 10-03-2003, 08:56 AM

honing is taking a device attached to a drill with three stones on it that are on arms that are touching the cylinder walls. the drill is spinning and the operator moves it up and down producing a fine crosshatch pattern on the cylinder walls and taking the "glaze" off making them slightly rough for the rings to wear into the wall and seat well.

Brian

ToiboTonaZee · 10-03-2003, 05:00 PM

Id take it to a shop to get it honed. The speed at which you move up and down determines the final seating of the rings. Also a machine shop can put more pressure on it with the honing machine and get it to bite more into the cylinder walls. This makes the honing even.

86Shelby · 10-04-2003, 07:08 PM

For best results take it to the shop. If you were going to sell the car right after the engine is in, sure skimp by just to get rid of it. The shop can do a much higher quality job with thier machine than you can with a drill.
We had an area race engine builder/machinist come to school and show us the old way to hone cylinders. While he was doing that with old hand held Sunnen equipment I set up our new machine(also Sunnen) for the second or third time and honed my SBC 305 correctly by the time he was done with 2 cylinders. My job looked better to boot!
Just spend the 50 bucks or so and have the best job done. If the hatchmarks are too verticle they will spin the rings instead of seating them and if they are too horizontal they will act like a zipper on the rings and eat them up.