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Old 01-28-2004, 10:35 PM   #31
 
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I am not being petty or imature at all. It drives me insane that you are trying to prove a point but cant seem to type a proper sentance.

Funny in all the years in working towards a BSME I have never ever heard of Pounds-Mass. Mayeb I should go read some more.
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Old 01-28-2004, 10:42 PM   #32
 
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Who knows, after getting my BSME I might have forgotten what it is!!! hehehe

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Funny in all the years in working towards a BSME I have never ever heard of Pounds-Mass. Mayeb I should go read some more.
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Old 01-28-2004, 11:11 PM   #33
 
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whydopeoplesemmtoargueandpointoutthemoststupidandp ointlessthingstheworldmayneverknowisthissentencego odenoughforeveryone
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hey man, there is this thing between the two "ALT" buttons on your keyboard... you might want to try it some day!



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Old 01-29-2004, 03:03 AM   #35
 
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ever see someone break an alum?

Yes... want pictures? I have them around here somewhere. My one friend put a couple of windows in his small block chevy when an. His '58 Vette rolled because of it. It was actually on the car's 181st run down the track. Was planning to throw the rods away after 175 passes, but there was only one more race he wanted to go to that season and he didnt expect to make it to the Semis.... And the tell-tale tach said his max RPM on the run was only 7500.
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i broke an oem rod does that count only cause i threw the bearing....
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I am not being petty or imature at all. It drives me insane that you are trying to prove a point but cant seem to type a proper sentance.

Funny in all the years in working towards a BSME I have never ever heard of Pounds-Mass. Mayeb I should go read some more.
so maybe i made a simple mistake on my wording, and you are absolutely perfect.

get a life. if all you have, is to sit around and tear people down, then you are one sad individual. oh and take your own advise about proper sentences.... you are about as bad of speller as me. (guess that shows you are an engineer just like me. hmmm). as for that little slip up of units, how about offering a correction instead of tearing someone down.

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Old 01-29-2004, 06:54 AM   #38
 
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And are also ridiculously over kill for any 8 valve application. WTF is with everyone pushing those gay Pauter rods. They are not anything new, they have been available to the DSM people for a long time. They are overpriced and over kill for most applications where Crowers would be more then sufficent as is what the DSM people figured out.

The clearancing of the block also had nothing to do with the fact that the rods were aluminum it has more to do with a length that was not stock in the block in the picture.
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I'm sorry I should've checked with you before I put a set of gay rods in my car
What are you homophobic or something
I didn't realize anybody was forcing you to read this or to buy Pauter rods
I've used them, know of others that have and passing the word along so that others know that they are an option for are cars
I know of plenty of snapped or stretched alum. rods
Yes, technology has changed greatly over the years and with proper start-up/shut down and measuring for stretching, alum. will last a while
When I first built this motor it was a heavy strip/street use motor
Failure was not an option
It may be over kill but I wan't a gernade proof bottom end that I never wanted to worry about
I'll show you a Pauter Rod that went THROUGH an engine block after a piston failed and ripped the wrist out of the piston, The rod had less then .010" deflection, that's it, both ends were still in round
Yes DSM crowd has been using them for a little while but like Cindy said they are a VW based company that has been selling them before DSM was even a term and I've been using them for 5+ years so I know it's not a NEW thing
My comment before about block notching wasn't the fact that they were alum. but that they were longer and the point was that so are mine
So what in your mind make these rods so gay

Hey Frank
You've got more patience then I do dealing with a lame unsupported comment such as that then I would
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:57 AM   #39
 
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I am not being petty or imature at all. It drives me insane that you are trying to prove a point but cant seem to type a proper sentance.

Funny in all the years in working towards a BSME I have never ever heard of Pounds-Mass. Mayeb I should go read some more.
While your reading pick up a dictonary it's
SENTENCE
It really makes drives crazy trying to figure out what someone saying when they can't even spell right
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Old 01-29-2004, 06:59 AM   #40
 
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Hey MoparBoyy
Sorry your thread got highjacked
Good luck with your motor
what OTHER plans do you have for it?
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Since the origional topic is pretty much over with....

Bruce,
I am putting the pauter rods into my turbo project v6. they are within $40 of the crower, weigh about .2lbs lighter then the crower.

Since I am replacing my pistons and rods, I might shorten the height of the piston and increase the length of the rod over stock. This will allow me to increase the time of leverage and achieve better leverage. Granted it wont be much, but its a "while I am at it" thing.

Of course this kind of thinking is dangerous. It leads to the following... what happens if I where to weld and grind the crank somewhat so that I can shorten the stroke, and then make up for it with more rod lenght. I would have even more of a rev'ing screamer! Like I said, dangerous thinking. However I am sure you know what I am talking about!

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Old 01-29-2004, 08:14 AM   #42
 
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Finally the reason I was looking for. I sustitute gay inplace of stupid quite frequently.

All this time I have merely been saying that people seem to be bent on Pauter but no one knew why, when Crower has been offering the same services for quite some time. I couldn't find weight specs to compare the rods but the qoute below is the answer I was looking for. If they are 3.2oz lighter then the Crowers that makes them different and no longer as gay. Everyone kept pushing them with out actually saying why besides that they were Chromo, which is a attribute that lots of aftermarket steel rods share.

I was only prompted to enter this frey because Bruce seemed to be whoring his opinion every where about the Pauters. And yes Bruce and Frank I love tearing people down isn't that what the internet is all about it seems lately. Spelling errors are not concious, not hitting the shift key every time is concious and annoying.

On a seperate note, are the Pauter rods you had made Bruce, did you supply them with dimensions or dd they already have the info for the 2.2/2.5? A more direct question, are the rods in stock or will the next person also have to supply specs.

If you guys come to SDAC I will buy you boths beers, and maybe a book on how to type.


Oh yeah and Clay with the way schools are now people will likely never even hear about the measurement system that is the most common in this country. Stupid SI.

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Since the origional topic is pretty much over with....

Bruce,
I am putting the pauter rods into my turbo project v6. they are within $40 of the crower, weigh about .2lbs lighter then the crower.


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If you guys come to SDAC I will buy you boths beers, and maybe a book on how to type.
I hope they bring you a dictionary.
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Yep. I didn't proof read that one. I was running late for work.
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