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Old 03-13-2004, 05:21 PM   #16
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call us up at the little shop we are in winnipeg manitoba canada
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and why say 2.5L is **** those balance shafts give you an extra 10 untaped hp add under pullys thats another 5 to 10 hp

You are an incredible advertisement for that shop.

You add the "power adders" ricer style!!! So I can get 20hp by ditching balance shafts and going UDP? NICE! I can get another 10hp with a K&N drop in, another 10 over than with a CAI ... Dude, my T2 is making as much power as a T3!!!!!


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now is u dont mind me asking you what mods have you done on ur motor to get the extra 30 hp
beacuse 13 psi will not do it that 1 psi more than the stock 12

unless u have the factory hot rob witch like 4 were made at around 200 hp check out donovans site every td'er use's his site as a bible

dont mean to flame you but stock gtc made 174 hp at 12 psi to get that 205 you would have to boost to about 17 to 18 psi on that vnt the vnt compressor is small like the mits

so some explanation would be cool
Do you think doing the exhaust system gains you any power? I'm not talking about just an exhaust tip there dawg, some people actually put bigger pipe in all the way through!
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:24 PM   #17
 
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removing th balance shafts gives you anywere from 7 to 10 hp on 2.5L motors and plus you can hold an extra leater of oil if you really want it the motor rumbles alittle more alotho when you remove the shafts you have to mod the oild plus and what not

adding a set of underdrive pullys will help asweel thay are rated 5 to 10 hp at 5000+ rpm << for me that = more power

edit 2.2 dose not come with balance shafts
#1, a 2.2 DOSE cum wit balance shafts, in a 1990 VNT car.

#2 yeah you can put an extra LEATER of oil in (NOT) if you don't mind starving the pickup on hard turns.

#3 By your spelling and grammar and vocabulary I'm guessing you're like 14? Shouldn't you be out skateboarding before cub scouts or something?
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:29 PM   #18
 
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its much more durable than the stock t1 crank
nothing else about it

I bet one made out of plastic would be even better, yo!


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it dose not add hp it mearly takes much more of a beating
anything else you would like to miss understand

Miss understand? Is that your middle school homeroom teacher?

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as i said removing the plance shafts from a 2.5L showed inprovements from 7 to 14 hp
plance shafts? Is that a reference to one of the backstreet boys? I can't keep up with you kids these days...

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all cars will vary depending on mods we will soo find out about mine when it hits the dyno some time this summber


and why go for a vnt motor those turbos arent for making power the compressor is smaller than the one used on a mits

if chrylser/dodge based it on a turbo 2 t3 then ya i would have upgraded to it long ago
It just hurts reading your posts. It just hurts.
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:38 PM   #19
 
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1 I will simply say donovan has made and extra 14 hp from removing his balance shaft

He has? ****, someone better call Gary and tell him!!!!!1

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2 i dont run the shop i dont own the shop

should read "2 i dont run the shop i dont own the shop i ride my bike to the shop and hang out there cuz itz kool"

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3 vnt turbos are pices of ****
Have you ever had a VNT?
Have you ever SEEN a VNT?
Do you know what a VNT is?

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4 i am not making 320 hp
Because if you try to pedal that hard your chain falls off?

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5 luigis daytona is on stock everything removed balance shafts polished crank ported intake and exust super 60 turbo on all stoccckkkkkk!!!!! 2.5L engine parts with mild porting!

WOW!!! Just reading that, I got so excited!!

WTF does that have to do with anything you've said in your posts?????

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6 you are an ass for not reading donovans site and coming here condridicting me "i would get some direct qwotes from his site but i am to lazzy go read it for yourself"
HHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

condridicting. WOW!

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7 let me ask you somthing do you think the crank in a 2.5L si the same as a forged crank from a 2.2
Nope!

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8 this part of the forum s for retard like mr labaron vnt that thinks 13 psi will make him an extra 30 hp as so stated in his cardomain and i dont see him replying the only people i see replying are a bunch of nebies to TD'es that seem to think that a stock crank from a 2.5L is the same as a forged crank from 2.2?????

What's a nebies?

Mr. Labaron is a retard?

Dude, I think you need to go find a Victorias Secret catalog and relax yourself a little bit.

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flaming <<<<< shows how new u are at this GO AND READ THE BIBAL FOR TORBO DODGES MAN http://www.thedodgegarage.com/
Flaming <<<<<<< shows how 14 year old ricer wannabees should slow the h*ll down before flaming people for asking questions.
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Old 03-13-2004, 05:49 PM   #20
 
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okay so your saying 205 to the weels....so we are talking about 240-250 hp actual hp to the flyweel at 13 psi on a turbo 2 t3 garret it takes alittle more psi than that more like 16 - 17 to be exact just a nice question no flaming intended and that if ur injectors can take or if u have cold starts or your electronics is upgraded to super 60

see that t2 turbo is rated at 280 at most the rest of your power would have to come from other engin mods porting and what not
Look, I never dynoed the car. It is an estimate! The fact is that I know a guy here in Utah that has a GLHS, no, not Dempsey. He had a 2.5L Turbo I where he had done the Turbo II conversion as well as the full 3" exhaust. He had his car dynoed at a little over what I am claiming. So I was simply estimating around those numbers. How knows, perhaps his dyno graphs were bull****, I don't know and I don't care. That is not what this thread was about in the first place. Thanks for throwing it off topic with something you could have PMed me about unless you like trying to make an ass out of other people in public but seem to only make yourself look like an ass.

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You already have a good T2 common block.

#1 - take your balance shafts out.
#2 - plug hole.
#3 - get oil pickup and oil pan from 89T2, 89T4, or 89up 2.2TBI.
#4 - put on your block.

There - you have a good T2 common block.
Yeah, I have thought about removing the shafts, but I would rather have a brand new block if I can so I figured go with an 89 and save myself the trouble. If I can't find a brand new or VERY low mileage 89 engine then that is probably what I'll do.
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Daytonawpg.. give it a break... Calkin knows more about these engines than most... Open exhaust.. 13 psi Yes, I'll bet 200+ (many +'s) is there. Now, quit advertising the shop here unless the shop wants to make a contribution to the site.

Dan.. I know you've been hitting the brewskies a little, but take it easy on the uneducated. (BTW, Dan KNOWS donovan's site well and of course Mr. Donovan himself....)

AHA!!! Now for the good part... FORGED cranks are overrated in a commonblock engine!!! But not in a pre-common block

And what does a polished crank do for the engine... 10 hp.. NO just that you want to keep the next set of bearings alive!!!

Man was I pissed when I found my '90 common block TBI motor had a fricken forged crank!!! So much for what everyone says....
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Because if you try to pedal that hard your chain falls off?
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Old 03-13-2004, 06:42 PM   #23
 
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LOL..yes Dan can be quite amusing...
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okay so your saying 205 to the weels....so we are talking about 240-250 hp actual hp to the flyweel at 13 psi on a turbo 2 t3 garret it takes alittle more psi than that more like 16 - 17 to be exact just a nice question no flaming intended and that if ur injectors can take or if u have cold starts or your electronics is upgraded to super 60
UGHHH.. You really do have a TON to learn.. S-60 (to quote my KIDS) is not Da-Bomb... Actually compared to what you can get now, well, they SUCK!!

for your info, 205 to the wheels is a cakewalk with all stock components (intercooler, turbo AND injectors ) at a mere 14 psi if you do the EXHAUST side right!!

Buddy, the mor I read your posts in this thread, the more I think you need to sit back and learn. Mr VNT (to you) knows his stuff....

Polygon... I would seriously consider finding an N/a TBI comon block.... no balace shafts, and that cast crank is 7lbs lighter!! makes a world of difference.
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Yeah, I have thought about removing the shafts, but I would rather have a brand new block if I can so I figured go with an 89 and save myself the trouble. If I can't find a brand new or VERY low mileage 89 engine then that is probably what I'll do.
You know ... another way you could go if you can't find an 89T2 to your expectations would be to grab one of the 89up 2.2 TBI blocks, they're all over the place in Omnis and Shadows. Wear and tear won't be as tough as on a T2, especially if you find a low miles one. As long as you're willing to drill an oil return (and the cross drills if you prefer) then you've got yourself an 89T2 block also.
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Oh, now you are helpful... HAHAHA I beat you to that one!!!
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UGHHH.. You really do have a TON to learn.. S-60 (to quote my KIDS) is not Da-Bomb... Actually compared to what you can get now, well, they SUCK!!

for your info, 205 to the wheels is a cakewalk with all stock components (intercooler, turbo AND injectors ) at a mere 14 psi if you do the EXHAUST side right!!

Buddy, the mor I read your posts in this thread, the more I think you need to sit back and learn. Mr VNT (to you) knows his stuff....

Polygon... I would seriously consider finding an N/a TBI comon block.... no balace shafts, and that cast crank is 7lbs lighter!! makes a world of difference.
DARNIT ADLER we posted at the same time!

And you KNOW, back behind that official title of yours you were laughing like hell

It just ticks me off when someone's asking a question, and another person blasts them. THAT's who I'll pick on

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I like you more and more.. TO THE BROTHERHOOD!!! Btw, the B'hood knows how to make power!!


You crack me up

BTW.. I wasn't just laughing.. I was rolling on the floor....
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I can't keep a straight face anymore thanks to Dan. Wow, about time I had a real good laugh! :big grin:
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While at yard keep an eye out for this 89+ block.

http://hometown.aol.com/russjerome/images/mexb1.jpg

Arrow points to the letter "C", Mexican block as rumor goes.
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