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Old 06-10-2004, 09:49 AM   #1
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I am rebuilding a 2.2 turbo motor that through a rod. The engine shop I deal with has a na 2.2 motor there that they now own. It is an 85 block. I know that the rods are ok to use and the crank is ok. The only problem I have is that I do not know yet if it is a 6 or 8 bolt crank. If it is a 6 bolt does anyone know if a 6 bolt flywheel will bolt up to the torque converter of a 1988 or will it be of no use to me. I am just trying to get this thing running because I need it for a daily driver, not looking for performance yet.
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ok, Automatics do not use Flywheels, they use Flex Plates, and secondly, I know very little about chrysler FWD automatics, so good luck.
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with reply's like that it's a wonder anyone want's to get into TD's. by the way the common name is flywheel, and automatics do use them, so forget posting if you are going to be a smart a$$. obviously daytona88 is a newbie, as i believe you probably were at one time, and me too for that matter, so give him opinions, advice, and any help that you can, don't insult him!
daytona88, i have not seen anything that definately says one way or the other whether this will work or not, try the transmission section, most of those guys really know their stuff, good luck.
all 81-85 cranks are 6 bolt and 86-93 are 8 bolt, what month the production change was though, i do not know.
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I believe the early and late tq convertors are different. Post the question in the trans section as suggested and I'm sure cliff will anwser it.

84-85; 3 lug torque converter, 6 bolt flexplate, notches on converter for pump, small axles.

86; 4 lug converter, 8 bolt flexplate, flats on converter for pump, small axles.

87-92; 4 lug converter, 8 bolt flexplate, flats on converter, big axles with redesigned differential.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/trans_guide.html


Straight from donovans site. Hope it helps

BTW Monk, I echo your sentiments.
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BTW Monk, I echo your sentiments.[/QUOTE]


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speaking of flywheels and automatics......can a Fidanza flywheel be used in auto applications???
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WTF?! I've taken apart mopar Automatics before, and they do not use the same "Flywheel" that a manual does....I would know because I have ****ing swapped one from an auto to a manual before in my back yard, and NO, you can not use the "flywheel", from an automatic in a Manual Transmission. And the reason I swapped it is because I don't know much about autos, but I know enough to not like them.
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speaking of flywheels and automatics......can a Fidanza flywheel be used in auto applications???

To put it nicely, Flywheels and flexplates are different. NOT interchangeable. Also, flexplates weigh maybe 1/3 of what a flywheel does. So a lightweight flexplate is not of any concern.

But, when you are giving answers in the tech section, rather than make someone feel like an idiot for using the wrong term, find a nice way to correct them and THEN give them the answer they need or stay out of the thread. We are all adults (I think).
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yeah, gotta go with ken on that one. i mean, your first post, bl34daoiwmedmOn, could've been one of those "meant to be gentle but lost in the text of the internet" type of things. we all do it from time to time. but your second post was a little irate. i hope you were just having a bad day, because there are enough a-holes on the board already, and we don't need another one THAT close to me. besides, anybody who'd swap an auto for a manual is my kind of guy!
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so basically in over fifteen years, you've never spoken with a noob who was trying to learn? i remember when i didn't know that a fly existed.
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Tim_K Post it again and see you in a week. Can you take a hint??
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I don't know what the big deal is. Those are the simple facts, at least according to me they are. No attacks on anyone in particular.
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Actually the term flexplate is from older rwd mopar transmission syntax . In the 727 & 904 transmissions a flexplate attatched the crank to the converter . The starter ring gear is on the converter in this application , and this is the distinction that makes it a flex plate .
The 413 fwd transaxle uses a flywheel to attatch the crank to the converter . It is considered a flywheel because the ring gear is integral . That being said , while it is not the same , nor is it interchangeable with a manual transaxle application flywheel , it is correctly described as a flywheel and NOT a flexplate .

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