Eagle Connecting rods

I remember reading that certain neon connecting rods were direct swap componenets for the TD's. Im just looking to get this confirmed. Comparing Donovans measurments to available neon rods, I found that the "Dodge 2.4 EDZ, PT Cruiser, Neon SRT4" are the same length versus the neon "420A" rods. Thanks for your help. Any other rod reccomendations are appreciated.

[Bl4ckD34m0n]

Forward Motion Inc. Has a few avalible, but I think the Eagles are the cheapest option when I comes to upgrading the stock rods, but I don't know anything about them reliability wise, but they should be strong, 4030 Steel is norhing to be fooled with. Anybody had any expirece with them?

I don't know how long you have been in O-town, but hit me up sometimes if you ever get on AIM, lawngnomehitman.

[Shadow16V]

When Eagle first introduced the rod for the 2.4 I called them about their thoughts on using them in my TIII. From the opinion I got from the Tech on the phone his suggestions were I would be better off with my stock rods and good rod bolts.

I supposed if you had an early turbo car with the lightweight rods they may be a decent upgrage

Ben

[Aries_Turbo]

doesnt Leon have them in his 480whp motor in his daytona?

Brian

[glhsken]

Larry has stockers in his 500.0whp rt....

[Shadow16V]

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Originally Posted by Aries_Turbo doesnt Leon have them in his 480whp motor in his daytona? Brian

He may but the Tech I spoke to seemed Genuinly Honest(not that common these days) and even though I was willing to buy his product he suggested keeping what I had.

No point in risking failure when the Stock rods have proven them selves to be plenty strong.

Ben

[Bl4ckD34m0n]

As good as the stock rods seem, they also seem to be the achilies heel of most of Hybrid conversions, both on this site and others, when there is a critical failure, it's a rod or rod bearing. But you are right, for considerably less money, I can have my rods tested and fully checked out at a local machine shop, and still have the extra cash to buy some high performance hardware and bearings.

[Aries_Turbo]

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Originally Posted by glhsken Larry has stockers in his 500.0whp rt....

no doubt that the stockers are a good piece but Larry is asking to blow stuff up lol hehe

Just trying to gauge the strength of the Eagles regardless of price and economics. Leon is also running that through an auto which is making the same HP or more than Larry.

Those who read this... Im not trying to say that we need aftermarket rods as we do not in most cases. Im just getting a feel for what rod will handle what HP. plus Frank has a set for Whitey when I drop off the motor at the machine shop in the next few weeks so I want a good decision to be made. I know in the past that bad stuff has been said about Eagles but my machinst has never had a set come through his shop that were out more than .0001". Plus they are an H beam so they toss oil on the cyl walls and underneath the piston which is good for a turbo motor.

Brian

[Mike Radowski]

Everyone, I have just gone through the same process.

The srt-4 eagle rods are compatible with our motors when you use the srt rod bearings. I also asked around, and while the eagles look like a stout piece, they actually use a smaller rod bolt than the arp's I have in my t2 rods. That was the deciding factor for me.

The mitsu guys use them and have good luck w/the eagles, but they come with a larger rod bolt. Either go with stock t2's and good fasteners, or pony up the $$ for pauter(~$750), crower(~$750), or oliver rods(~$900).

[glhsken]

Use Arp Wave-loc's

[Frank]

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Originally Posted by glhsken Use Arp Wave-loc's

What is required to make them fit into the eagle rods?



Frank

[Shadow16V]

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The srt-4 eagle rods are compatible with our motors when you use the srt rod bearings. I also asked around, and while the eagles look like a stout piece, they actually use a smaller rod bolt than the arp's I have in my t2 rods. That was the deciding factor for me.

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Do you happen to recall the Stock Wrist pin diameter on the SRT-4 Rods. If I recall correctly the stock size on the NA 2.4 is 0.866" It's been awhile since I looked all this up and I may be wrong.

Ben

[Shadow16V]

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Originally Posted by fkatzenb What is required to make them fit into the eagle rods? Frank

Most likely you will not be able to install larger rod bolts into the eagle rods. The Stock Rods use a bolt that is pressed in and then a nut threads on to retain the rod cap. On the eagle rods the rod it self is Drilled and taped for the bolt to thread into the rod. By trying to modify the rod to use a rod bolt it was not designed for you will most likely weaken the rod more than if you were to leave the smaller rod bolts.

Ben

[glhsken]

I meant for the TII rods

[Frank]

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Originally Posted by Shadow16V Most likely you will not be able to install larger rod bolts into the eagle rods. The Stock Rods use a bolt that is pressed in and then a nut threads on to retain the rod cap. On the eagle rods the rod it self is Drilled and taped for the bolt to thread into the rod. By trying to modify the rod to use a rod bolt it was not designed for you will most likely weaken the rod more than if you were to leave the smaller rod bolts. Ben

Gotcha. I am just concerned now because I have a set of Eagles going into Whitey very soon.