Garage Storage Organization and Garage Cabinets

B.A.P. · 02-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Sooo, why not JE's? Just curious...

2.2=8 · 02-09-2005, 02:13 PM

I don't think there is anything wrong with JE's, just don't know if you can get them that light without braking the bank.

glhsken · 02-09-2005, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadAssPerformance

Sooo, why not JE's? Just curious...

No one in this thread brought them up..

minimopar · 02-09-2005, 02:29 PM

They were brought up in the previous thread.

Need some input Machine shop screw up !!!

They are pricey for what you get, but that's FM.

minimopar · 02-09-2005, 02:34 PM

In regards to Gary's coment about the Venolias...it is interesting. My machinist thought highly of them, as they were very close in dimensions and weight. I won't be using them again though. Too loud.

On the subject on skirts (piston skirts, that is): what is the deal here? My Venolias were 2.2L, but had basically no skirt. I'm sure that contributes to the noise. Are the JE/Ross/Wiseco pistons skirtless as well? That would be annoying.

moparzrule · 02-09-2005, 02:40 PM

mo' parts · 02-09-2005, 02:42 PM

does anyone know the measurement of a wiseco (stock bore)? i have an 89,000 mile motor with little to no taper or out of round, would like to keep it standard bore if possible. i have a dial bore gauge, so i know the meausurement of my bores, just wondering if, when they are honed, they will be beyond the .035 clearance wiseco calls for.

Koreth · 02-09-2005, 02:52 PM

what DOES a hone do anyway besides scratch up the cyl wall with all those crosshatch marks? and what kind of changes does honing usual make to the dimensions of the bore?

minimopar · 02-09-2005, 04:06 PM

Very little change, I suspect, but it depends how long you do it for. You are basically setting up a surface that is proper for ring break-in. I think the tool on the boring machine leaves a slightly grooved surface, so they maybe have to hone a little more than someone doing a re-ring.

moparzrule · 02-09-2005, 04:26 PM

I believe honing at a machine shop can take up to .005'', someone correct me if I'm wrong! But I believe bottle honing wouldn't really take anything off.

turbovanman · 02-09-2005, 04:29 PM

Depends on the hone, if you use a bar stone type, you can remove alot of metal, some use this method to get exact bore clearances. The ball hone, not much if any.

I have some JE's going into my next shortblock for my 2.5 and they look very stout, nice skirts-same as the stockers. Bore clearance is only .004" so it shouldn't sound like a diesel when cold. I will get one weighed for comparison. Oh and there are no sharp edges, they have all been rounded off.
The only reason I got these was Venolias I heard way way to loud and .007" bore clearance is ridiculous and Gary didn't have any .020 Ross pistons,

moparzrule · 02-09-2005, 04:40 PM

I use the bottle hone, it's real easy and hard to mess up! LOL

minimopar · 02-09-2005, 04:45 PM

I would love to see a pic of a 2.2L Venolia, JE, Wiseco, and Ross all side-by-side.

glhsken · 02-09-2005, 04:50 PM

[IMG]http://********************/shop/images/Wiseco%20Pistons.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://********************/shop/images/Pistons%20cat.jpg[/IMG]
not great shots.. but at least pics

**looneytuner** · **RE PISTON skirts**

The PISTON

skirts have 2 functions. Minimize piston slap and bore wear, AND heat disipation (heat transfer). The bad is extra weight. Aluminum transfers heat quickly so the extra skirt (PISTON)

should make a big difference.

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