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12-18-2006, 03:03 PM
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running on 3 cylinders
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Fairfax, VA
1/4: 0.000
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this has happend to me twice. I will start the car up, to rough running, off the scale rich on the wideband, and 400 deg EGT's in # 4 (where the probe is). after it did it the first time, i drove it for a while (5min), then restarted it and it ran fine, but i went home and pulled the plugs, #4 smelled like gas so i replaced all 4 plugs. Then, it did it again the other day, started it up, super rich low EGT, and smelled like gas. Could my #4 injector be getting stuck open or something like that?
Thanks in advance,
Billy
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12-18-2006, 08:06 PM
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Ohio
My Ride: 1986 GLHS
Engine: 2.2 turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Any Codes? Yes it is possible the injector is having a problem. You could swap #1 AND #4 injectors. If the problem happens again, check both plugs and see if the problem moved to #1 cylinder.
The other problem might be living in Fairfax County, Va. I know all to well about the problems of living there....LOL!!!
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12-18-2006, 08:25 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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My brothers GLHS does that sometimes in the winter...we haven't found the problem yet. Let us know what you find.
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12-19-2006, 03:38 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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Originally Posted by QKsilverF1
pat, has he tried swapping injectors yet?
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Yes, he swapped injectors, cap, rotor, wires, checked grounds, etc and so far, he hasn't found it. I don't think he swapped the coil or injector harness, although, I once shook the harness around trying to get it to duplicate the problem (thinking there could be a short) and couldn't do it. It's strange..once the car runs for a little bit, it runs like a top.
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12-19-2006, 03:54 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Peterborough, ON
My Ride: 85 Turbo Z, TII
Engine: 2.2L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Maybe try hooking up an oscilloscope to the injector wiring to see the pulse width of the signal. Although we already established that it isn't the injector. But it still might help.
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01-03-2007, 12:22 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Rockville, MD
My Ride: '88 Shadow ES 16v
Engine: 2.2 T-III
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 11.610
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Originally Posted by QKsilverF1
Pat, how do your brothers plugs look/smell when he pulls them? Does he notice any oil in the cylinders or on the plugs when he pulls them? Does installing a fresh set of injectors cure the problem for the first few startups???
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I'm not sure...I'll ask him next time I talk to him.
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01-04-2007, 02:43 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
My Ride: 87 omni 89 caravan
Engine: turbo 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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what condition are the plug wires. sometimes they get a break in the lines and when they warm up they will connect again.
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01-04-2007, 11:49 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Terryville, CT.
My Ride: 1986 GLHS #065
Engine: 535hpAluminumLongRod
Induct: Turbo + Nitrous
1/4: 11.921
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Ive had that happen with a bad head gasket before. The car would run totaly fine until you shut it off and let it sit, then when you started it the thing would missfire on cyl. 4 until it cleared the coolant off the plug then it would smooth right out. It was really odd.
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