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10-15-2007, 03:19 PM
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Whitmore Lake, Michigan
My Ride: Titan & '89 C/S AGS
Engine: 2.5L T1
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.873
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Where did that charge temp data come from? It's different than the transfer function that's stored in the cals. But, all Chryslers (that I've seen the cals for) use the same temperature sensor for both coolant and charge temp (where applicable). Even the Neon...
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10-16-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Goldsboro NC
1/4: 0.000
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Voltage table for k type thermocouple F
0.000000, 32
0.000397, 50
0.000798, 68
0.001203, 86
0.001612, 104
0.002023, 122
0.002436, 140
0.002851, 158
0.003267, 176
0.003682, 194
0.004096, 212
0.004509, 230
0.004920, 248
0.005328, 266
0.005735, 284
0.006138, 302
0.006540, 320
0.006941, 338
0.007340, 356
0.007739, 374
0.008138, 392
0.008539, 410
0.008940, 428
0.009343, 446
0.009747, 464
0.010153, 482
0.010561, 500
0.010971, 518
0.011382, 536
0.011795, 554
0.012209, 572
0.012624, 590
0.013040, 608
0.013457, 626
0.013874, 644
0.014293, 662
0.014713, 680
0.015133, 698
0.015554, 716
0.015975, 734
0.016397, 752
0.016820, 770
0.017243, 788
0.017667, 806
0.018091, 824
0.018516, 842
0.018941, 860
0.019366, 878
0.019792, 896
0.020218, 914
0.020644, 932
0.021071, 950
0.021497, 968
0.021924, 986
0.022350, 1004
0.022776, 1022
0.023203, 1040
0.023629, 1058
0.024055, 1076
0.024480, 1094
0.024905, 1112
0.025330, 1130
0.025755, 1148
0.026179, 1166
0.026602, 1184
0.027025, 1202
0.027447, 1220
0.027869, 1238
0.028289, 1256
0.028710, 1274
0.029129, 1292
0.029548, 1310
0.029965, 1328
0.030382, 1346
0.030798, 1364
0.031213, 1382
0.031628, 1400
0.032041, 1418
0.032453, 1436
0.032865, 1454
0.033275, 1472
0.033685, 1490
0.034093, 1508
0.034501, 1526
0.034908, 1544
0.035313, 1562
0.035718, 1580
0.036121, 1598
0.036524, 1616
0.036925, 1634
0.037326, 1652
0.037725, 1670
0.038124, 1688
0.038522, 1706
0.038918, 1724
0.039314, 1742
0.039708, 1760
0.040101, 1778
0.040494, 1796
0.040885, 1814
0.041276, 1832
0.041665, 1850
0.042053, 1868
0.042440, 1886
0.042826, 1904
0.043211, 1922
0.043595, 1940
0.043978, 1958
0.044359, 1976
0.044740, 1994
0.045119, 2012
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11-08-2007, 03:35 PM
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#18
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2005
My Ride: Saratoga -91
Engine: 3.0 V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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Is this data the same for the N/A 3.0 v6?
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11-09-2007, 06:57 AM
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#19
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Human Factory Service Manual
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
My Ride: 1990 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.2 L VNT
1/4: 15.570
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It should be, all 3 wire variable resistor sensors (Map and TPS) operate on the same 5 volt reference.The only exceptions to this would be a N/A and Turbo Map as the Turbo has to read above atmospheric(boost).Changing from manufacturer to manufactuer the voltage reading may be different as far as what thier controller parameters are set to see as normal but the MAP and TPS will still read 0- 5volts.
The voltage tables posted are for Chrysler Vehicles.When you check TPS you are looking for excessivly low or high readings with the throttle closed(will set a code) or dead spots when you sweep the TPS.
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11-09-2007, 08:53 PM
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#20
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Port Orchard, WA
My Ride: '88 Horizon R/T
Engine: 2.4L DOHC
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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Nah, not really. Just use a 10k bias resistor when assembling the MS, and the stock TD (and Neon) sensors work great. It's even written in the assembly instructions.
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11-11-2007, 06:11 AM
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2005
My Ride: Saratoga -91
Engine: 3.0 V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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Ok, thanks. I was just confused about this since my data-cd says the TPS should output 1-5volts, when this voltage table says 0-3volts. But i would believe this info to be correct since i get like a bit over 3 volts max on my sensor.
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11-11-2007, 07:25 AM
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Human Factory Service Manual
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
My Ride: 1990 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.2 L VNT
1/4: 15.570
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All sensors weather they are 3 wire variable resistors(MAP, TPS) or 2 wire thermistors
(ACT,CTS) operate on a 5 volt reference.
Anytime you have a problem with a sensor circuit unplug the connector at the sensor and with the key on using a digital voltmeter probe the 5 volt reference line to ground and you should read 5 volts.Then probe the reference line and the signal return line(controller ground) and you should read 5 volts.This verifies these 2 circuits are ok.
Then plug the connector back in and backprobe the signal line and signal ground to check the voltage output of the sensor and backprobe and check at the controller,the voltage should read the same,this verifies the signal line is ok.
Once you verify the circuit's are ok you can compare voltages to the voltage table to check sensor operation.
Without a scan tool you cannot verify what the controller is actually seeing.
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04-12-2008, 04:02 PM
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#23
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: May 2004
Location: BCM
My Ride: 2.4 Turbo Spirit
Engine: 2.4 DOHC
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Nice i missed this thread, I have some values for GM 3 bar map, GM air temp, I will get part numbers shortly. These are used for my SDS standalone but may help MS guys, I can also get the GM Coolant temp.
GM 3 bar map sensor(-psi means vac)
PSI/Vac Volt
-28.5, 0.078
-27.1, 0.156
-25.7, 0.234
-24.2, 0.313
-22.8, 0.391
-21.4, 0.469
-19.9, 0.547
-18.6, 0.625
-17.1, 0.703
-15.7, 0.781
-14.8, 0.859
-12.9, 0.938
-11.4, 1.016
-10.0, 1.094
-8.60, 1.172
-7.17, 1.25
-5.75, 1.328
-4.33, 1.406
-2.91, 1.484
-1.49, 1.563
-0.06, 1.641
0.670, 1.719
1.370, 1.797
2.060, 1.875
2.760, 1.953
3.460, 2.031
4.160, 2.109
4.860, 2.188
5.560, 2.266
6.250, 2.344
6.950, 2.422
7.650, 2.5
8.350, 2.578
9.050, 2.656
9.750, 2.734
10.40, 2.813
11.10, 2.891
11.80, 2.969
12.50, 3.047
13.20, 3.125
13.90, 3.203
14.60, 3.281
15.30, 3.359
16.00, 3.438
16.70, 3.516
17.40, 3.594
18.10, 3.672
18.80, 3.75
19.50, 3.828
20.20, 3.906
20.90, 3.984
21.60, 4.063
22.30, 4.141
23.00, 4.219
23.70, 4.297
24.40, 4.375
25.10, 4.453
25.80, 4.531
26.50, 4.609
27.20, 4.688
27.90, 4.766
28.60, 4.844
29.00, 4.922
30.00, 5
GM Air temp sensor
degF Volt
320 0.04
293 0.12
257 0.2
221 0.28
203 0.36
192 0.44
183 0.51
176 0.59
169 0.67
162 0.75
154 0.83
147 0.91
142 0.99
138 1.07
135 1.15
131 1.23
127 1.31
126 1.39
122 1.47
120 1.54
117 1.62
113 1.7
109 1.78
106 1.86
104 1.94
102 2.02
99. 2.1
95. 2.18
93. 2.26
91. 2.34
90. 2.42
88. 2.5
84. 2.57
81. 2.65
77. 2.73
75. 2.81
73. 2.89
72. 2.97
70. 3.05
68. 3.13
66. 3.21
63. 3.29
61. 3.37
59. 3.45
57. 3.53
55. 3.6
52. 3.68
48. 3.76
46. 3.84
45. 3.92
41. 4
39. 4.08
36. 4.16
34. 4.24
32. 4.32
27. 4.4
23. 4.48
19. 4.56
14. 4.63
5.0 4.71
-4. 4.79
-13 4.87
-31 4.95
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04-12-2008, 07:20 PM
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#24
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Re: Voltage Tables
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Port Orchard, WA
My Ride: '88 Horizon R/T
Engine: 2.4L DOHC
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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As for the MAP, the MS guys can just simply tell MS that they have a 3bar map, and poof, it's ready.. Or 4bar.. 
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