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10-10-2007, 09:56 PM
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Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Mo' valves, mo' boost
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Southeastern MA
My Ride: Daytona ES
Engine: 2.4L DOHC
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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Can I use brass compression fittings on steel fuel lines? I figure, the stock ones are just rubber hose clamped on to the steel lines, so anything probably works. What do you guys think? I'm asking because I have them kicking around already and it would be a quick easy way to convert to an NPT size end.
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Jon J.
1989 Daytona ES 2.4L - MPH (and, turns out, MPG too!!)
2003 Neon SXT - MPG... yeah just MPG
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10-10-2007, 09:58 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Resident piston cracker
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CT
My Ride: 92gtc vert
Engine: 2.5 8v
Induct: Turbo
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I used it on mine no problem. It was both on the feed and return. Summit sells ones to convert to AN fittings too.
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10-10-2007, 11:04 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: May 2005
Location: London Canada
My Ride: 84 Plymouth Turismo
Engine: 89 2.5 I/C TURBO
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I used brass 1/4 fittings and braided line on one of my past cars with no problems.. PARKER fittings, Use teflon tape sparingly and far from the last thread to ensure to not block the openings..trust me it happens. keep you searching for hours tracking down pressure issues..lol..
Robb
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2291434
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10-11-2007, 09:12 AM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houghton MI 60" sno so far
My Ride: OMNI/ShelDak/TSi/SL
Engine: 2.2 'GLHS style' TII
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you shouldnt have to use any teflon tape, anywhere, on a compression fitting.. its for pipe thread
the seal on a compression fitting is at the ferrule interface - not the threads
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10-11-2007, 09:37 AM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Mo' valves, mo' boost
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Southeastern MA
My Ride: Daytona ES
Engine: 2.4L DOHC
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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I think he meant on the threads:
Definitely don't want any chunks of Teflon tape getting anywhere near your injectors. Guys, thanks for the help. Always good to be able to use parts kicking around rather than buying something.
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Jon J.
1989 Daytona ES 2.4L - MPH (and, turns out, MPG too!!)
2003 Neon SXT - MPG... yeah just MPG
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10-11-2007, 10:59 AM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Port Richey FL
My Ride: 94 Plymouth Duster
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if you're referring to the threads on the compression unit itelf, it's not necessary. Compression's don't need sealant on threads period because they do absolutely nothing. Fuel line is ok for compression fittings in a pinch, but brake line is a BIG NO NO.
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09-23-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Southwest PA
My Ride: '89 2.5 Turbo Spirit
Engine: 2.5 Turbo
Induct: Turbo
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Years ago on my old 1971 Plymouth Valiant, I had a compression fitting on one line right near the master cylinder. It was on there 5 years and never had a problem. It was a double compression fitting to put 2 metal lines together, no flare on the lines, they had those brass wedge things in the fitting.
I use some sandpaper on the ends of the tubing where the fitting will go. Wrap the sandpaper around the tube and twist it a few times, to clean the tube and make tiny "rings" around the tube with the sanding marks so the fitting has something better to grab onto.
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09-23-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Boostaholic
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Winfield, MO
My Ride: 87 Shelby Z
Engine: 88 2.2 T2
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DO NOT use compression fittings on brake lines. It makes no difference if you have done it and it worked. Flare it and do it the right way!
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09-23-2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The Dells in Wisconsin
My Ride: '89 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.2
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000
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My thing against them for fuel is the vibration and (?) how may times you can take them apart without developing a leak. If the fitting gets reorientated to any degree the barrel won't seal.
Our pumps put out a lot of pressure.
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09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Spokane, Wa
My Ride: 85 GLHT, 87 ShelbyZ
Engine: 2.2 T2 and 2.5 T2
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you shouldn't ever have to remove it.
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09-23-2008, 10:45 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: The Dells in Wisconsin
My Ride: '89 Daytona Shelby
Engine: 2.2
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Depends where it's at ... and on what though. Stuff happens ... you know that.
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09-26-2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: west of st louis
My Ride: 88J 94P 03dime
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i re-ran fuel lines on my car, used lengths of straight brake line, connected them with brass unions. no leaks, solid as a rock. was pretty easy, bent the lines with my hands and was able to get it to fit in the original fuel line hangers. compression fittings would also work, but you have to make sure the ferrules are on there proplerly, line is not too small , bent going thru the ferrule etc. either one works, one looks nicer than the other.
DO NOT USE COMPRESSION FITTINGS ON ANY BRAKING SYSTEM COMPONENTS-EVER! its dangerous, copression fittings were not designed for those kinds of pressures- 1500+ psi can blow the fittings apart if there is anything even a little off with the flare fitting. its also illegal. most states have somthing about it in vehicle safety codes. when i was working at a local parts store a few years ago, a guy came in and asked for brake line compression fittings. i explained to him you cant do that its not safe. he said give em to me anyway. a highway patrolman who was waiting in line turned to him and said, " you put flare fittiings on your brake line and attempt to drive the vehicle i'll pull you over, impound your truck and give you a ticket for reckless endangerment." even if your state has no regulations about it, its still illegal according to DOT guidelines. dont put yourselves or others in danger by taking shortcuts on your brakes. that might be MY ass you plow into when your brakes fail......
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09-27-2008, 12:21 PM
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Re: Compression fittings on fuel lines
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Mitsu Booster
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Raleighwood, NC
My Ride: 88 Daytona Shelby Z
Engine: 2.2 intercooled
Induct: Turbo
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Originally Posted by crusty shadow
i re-ran fuel lines on my car, used lengths of straight brake line, connected them with brass unions. no leaks, solid as a rock. was pretty easy, bent the lines with my hands and was able to get it to fit in the original fuel line hangers. compression fittings would also work, but you have to make sure the ferrules are on there proplerly, line is not too small , bent going thru the ferrule etc. either one works, one looks nicer than the other.
DO NOT USE COMPRESSION FITTINGS ON ANY BRAKING SYSTEM COMPONENTS-EVER! its dangerous, copression fittings were not designed for those kinds of pressures- 1500+ psi can blow the fittings apart if there is anything even a little off with the flare fitting. its also illegal. most states have somthing about it in vehicle safety codes. when i was working at a local parts store a few years ago, a guy came in and asked for brake line compression fittings. i explained to him you cant do that its not safe. he said give em to me anyway. a highway patrolman who was waiting in line turned to him and said, " you put flare fittiings on your brake line and attempt to drive the vehicle i'll pull you over, impound your truck and give you a ticket for reckless endangerment." even if your state has no regulations about it, its still illegal according to DOT guidelines. dont put yourselves or others in danger by taking shortcuts on your brakes. that might be MY ass you plow into when your brakes fail......
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