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Old 02-13-2008, 12:17 PM   #16
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For regular unleaded gas, you should shoot for 11.5:1 to 12:1 ratio.

10:1 is really rich and means you should reduce fuel or raise the boost.
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Old 02-13-2008, 06:37 PM   #17
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ahh i see.......how could i go about geting that ratio with out a a/f gage?any ways? or no just dumb question?
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:54 PM   #18
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terms by peg? u mean more fuel?
Pegged as in off the chart higher than the wideband on the dyno will read. 10:1 is fat rich, and 18:1 is real lean. 14.7 at cruise for gas and 11-12:1 for safe power under boost.
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:58 PM   #19
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1st you need to know how much fuel you have. You can do that with a wideband O2 setup. I say this because a buddies stock 2.2 T1 would peg the wideband on the dyno at over 10:1. So he had plenty of fuel. No need to worry about larger injectors until you know what you have.
The Wideband O2 setup is an a/f gauge. innovatemotorsport.com. Look for the Perminent installed LC-1 setup.
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Old 02-14-2008, 10:05 AM   #20
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ahh i see.......how could i go about geting that ratio with out a a/f gage?any ways? or no just dumb question?
Use your nose to smell the tailpipe. You can do that by routing the tailpipe exhaust gas back to the cabin of the car. I'm sure your nose can tell how much oxygen, hydrocarbon, carbon monoxide, and any other poisonous gas that is in the air like a sensor and gauge can.


Quit being so cheap or stop modifying turbo car.
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im not beaing cheap. sorry if i wasted your time.. not every one has a great job and money to throw around, and act hard.
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Old 02-14-2008, 02:02 PM   #22
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The list is going to go a lot like this
LC-1 wideband
adjustible fuel pressure regulator
the bigger injectors, 54 or 42 lb units
3 bar map
3 bar computer like FWDperformance.com stage 5 computer
big Ebay intercooler and 2.5" lines

Then you turn the fuel up or down to get it right. I like the 12:1-13:1 range with premium fuel. 13 is great power but scary and 12 is great power and not so scary. 11:1 and richer your just tossing extra fuel because your already scared lol.

buy one piece at a time like your making payments till you have it all. The adjustible fuel pressure and intercooler should be first, then the wide band. Then you can start playing right then. Then install the 3 bar, injectors and computer last at once and adjust it.

Blowing an engine is expensive and time consuming, it is cheaper to be patient and do it right. If you guys saw in person what me and GLHNSLHT2 are able to do with our money 99% of you would faint. GLH is building 4 cars now, 2 are 3 bar computer cars, one is a masi powered L body. The daytona has a full race type suspension and a JE piston 2.5 with +40 injectors and D cal with a wideband and scanner. Then he just put a JE pistons T2 in his new yorker. He has had his own place over 10 years I've known him and has child support he pays to 2 kids. He makes now a wopping $11.25 an hour, used to get $9 an hour not long ago. Thats not BS folks! Be patient and sooner or later it happens. Do one car and not many like me and GLH it happens even faster LMAO. Get a game plan, stick to it. Don't go out and party if your young and flush what you do make down the drain at the bar. Locals friend here have a paid house, there parrents. He makes $22 an hour and she makes $16 an hour and they have NOTHING but a good time.
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