What EGT and A/F gauges do you use?

[glht_omni]

they are sufficient to monitor mild boost with a stock FPR, but when your ready to tune in a AFPR, your ready for a wideband if you dont already have it.

[ZachT]

does the AEM 30-4100 wideband gauge's O2 sensor screw right into the location of our original 02 sensor or how do these work?

i have a 4 wire 02 btw.

[87dtna]

You have to weld in another bung, it's the same size as the stock O2 sensor but you can't just remove the stock. Then engine ECU still reads the narrowband input of the stocker.
Usually the wideband gets a bung welded in the downpipe, a foot or 2 from the swingvalve.

[SUPER60omni]

Yeah, the wideband needs to be somewhat downstream from the turbo. The sensor wont last at 1500 deg. that close all the time.

[GLHNSLHT2]

Innovate LC-1 let's you remove and plug the stock O2 sensor completely

[ZachT]

so as far as i can tell, basically the aem 30-4100 kit is just a wideband and kindof a 'read only' deal, with other kits, like the aem UGEO you can program the data, and view it from a computer?

the 30-4100 basically just tells you where you stand on A/F accurately but doesnt program it?

other kits like the LC-1, UGEO, they are the same (accurate) but also let you program the run then view it from a computer (plugged in)

if this is how it is, im going to get a 30-4100 gauge, i need something.

[speeduphoria]

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Originally Posted by risen If you want, there's a thread over on the moparchem website with a whole bunch of info about the logworks2 setup I mentioned. Basically, I wrote a small piece of software to pull data from a LM and put it into logworks2. Logworks2 takes the LM data and the data from my LC-1 and puts it into one integrated graph. No guessing exactly which map/rpm/tps combo that lean spot was at, it's all graphed out in front of you. Just a bit of additional clarification on the innovate LC-1 setups, they have 2 analog outputs and 1 digital. The XD-16 and innovate's other guages use the digital output and leave the 2 analogs open. The digital output is a serial bus setup, so you can have multiple devices hooked up and still have your pc taking data from all the devices. Dunno if the AEM setup is as flexible, but for 250$ from moates.net I picked up my ometer and LC-1, I don't think it gets cheaper than that for W/B afr monitoring.

To me if the above is the case(I wasn't aware of it, and dont use stock electronics now), then Getting the Summit/Innovate kit would be the only way to go, If would be cheaper then Zeitronix and have more features(except for the EGT, but can be added on at any time which would give you 4 egt probe hookups and priced like the Zeitronix with boost sensor you need).

I have Innovate stuff and Logworks is top notch software. Zeitronix is good bang for the buck, but you need to buy the expensive boost sensor to read boost since the user input only logs voltage from what I see(no conversions built in to change into meaning full units of measure to watch/log)

[ZachT]

^me 2, i want to know the difference, i want to order a wideband