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Old 04-25-2003, 10:17 AM   #16
 
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I've seen a 3 bar map 2.5L set-up make 340 hp and 388 ft lbs... all on 93 octane pump gas at 25 psi boost.
Ya, but at what duty cycle? Actually, it's probably around 95+%
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:26 AM   #17
 
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Does it really matter that much?? The TIII motors had 100% duty cycle at times. How often are you there. 1/4 mile takes about 12 seconds... I Lift completely for each shift... On the street, If I stay in it for more than 5 seconds I'm WAY above the speed limit and looking back at the other guy.
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:33 AM   #18
 
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How often are you there. 1/4 mile takes about 12 seconds... I Lift completely for each shift...
Probally less if you started flat shift that baby
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:35 AM   #19
 
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Does it really matter that much?? The TIII motors had 100% duty cycle at times. How often are you there.
I feel the same way! If injectors were so unreliable at 100% DC, wouldnt Mopar have not taken the risk with the TIII and used different (larger) injectors?

There are numerous cases (not just TD) where people have run absurdly high fuel pressures and high DC%'s and things work just fine. I think one is leaving hp on the table if you dont use the injectors to their fullest before ditching them for a larger size.
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:36 AM   #20
 
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On the street, If I stay in it for more than 5 seconds I'm WAY above the speed limit and looking back at the other guy.
You havent met "4SFED4" yet bubb!
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:54 AM   #21
 
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Probally less if you started flat shift that baby
I shift quick.. Ask Chris Faulk... Even if I do "wussy" shift it... You automatic "cheater"

As for you Larry... Piece "o" cake the #'s don't lie


Pat, a cal set-up correctly for your car is the only way to go. I am in total agreement with you though.. If (and I doubt I'll push THIS car there) I do begin to max the injectors, I'll go to the 72's and have it programmed that way. Talk about injector noise.. I love that sound!!!

No matter what, I'll avoid a RRG reg at all cost.
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:57 AM   #22
 
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As for you Larry... Piece "o" cake the #'s don't lie

Thats right...they wont lie again when I have that Super 50 trim on there and Blackie is but a distant memory!

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If (and I doubt I'll push THIS car there) I do begin to max the injectors, I'll go to the 72's and have it programmed that way.
Whew.....must be nice to be able to afford 72 pphs! Big bucks there

Ill "milk" my +40's all the way to 375+ hp!
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:58 AM   #23
 
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No matter what, I'll avoid a RRG reg at all cost.
Yeah...they usually do the job, but sure are sensitive and sometimes dang hard to tune.
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