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Old 10-21-2008, 01:29 PM   #1
14psi pull on a 2.5 s60  
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Last run was at 12tdc timing, 14psi. FWD stg 3bar cal running on a 2bar sensor
Stock 2.5 bottom re-ringed to repair prior booboo. removed the balance shafts while in there.
Mods are cam timing advanced 4degrees, super 60 turbo, +40s, tu 3in sv, 3in downpipe, self ported swirl head with +1mm ex valves, self ported exhaust manifold, fmic, 3inch charge pipes, untouched 2piece intake and stock throttle body. 91octane pump.

Numbers seem pretty good to me considering the lowish boost and it was through a 3inch exhaust pipe 3in catco and a 3inch dynomax straight through, sucking through a 8inch long K&N cone filter on a 3inch intake pipe. Once I get the fwd cal to read the 3bar map we will see what it can do at 25psi.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:43 PM   #2
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:36 PM   #3
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Umm, resize this, jesus christ.

my browser auto resizes- guess others don't so I will.
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Old 10-21-2008, 05:11 PM   #4
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higher hp than I made at 12psi but I made 280ft-lbs.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:45 PM   #5
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higher hp than I made at 12psi but I made 280ft-lbs.
yeah, but I don't have that fancy top piece. Your setup is pretty close otherwise no?
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:36 PM   #6
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those #'s were way before where I'm at now. They were a stock 2.5 with a 2 piece, ported exhaust manny, .63 housing, 2.5" SV, 3" straight pipe/side exit and cummins i/c.
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:32 AM   #7
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Don't seem bad considering the map problem, Whats the fuel pressure at ? do you have a scanner to read the map voltage ? ive just got an old moniter 2000 with a pathfinder cartridge and it reads 13 inches of vac and 1.48 volts at idle, I believe it is scaled to read a 2bar so hence the low vac reading( I have a 3 bar and my vac is around 20" on the gauge
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You consider putting the cam timing back to stock?
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Old 10-22-2008, 07:59 AM   #9
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You consider putting the cam timing back to stock?
What I did was run a compression test and messed with the cam timing and left it where it read the highest psi. I will mess some more with the cam timing the next time I dyno it.


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Don't seem bad considering the map problem, Whats the fuel pressure at ? do you have a scanner to read the map voltage ? ive just got an old moniter 2000 with a pathfinder cartridge and it reads 13 inches of vac and 1.48 volts at idle, I believe it is scaled to read a 2bar so hence the low vac reading( I have a 3 bar and my vac is around 20" on the gauge
I have tried 3 different chips and 3 different 3bar maps including one from fwd and they all make the car run like crap with a 3bar-they all put out
1.60-ish volts with the engine off. I have to do more diagnostics- I have an otc 4000 to check things out, just need more time to mess with it.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:14 AM   #10
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Great numbers man. I have a 2.5 S60 kit with some mods i'm installing now, I am hoping to get those numbers too.
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PS, I am wondering which you did, and which is better? To use the MP fuel pump as an in tank pump replacement or if its better to use it in conjunction with the stocker?
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:42 AM   #11
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is that on the turbo you got from me
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:50 PM   #12
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is that on the turbo you got from me
no that is the one I had installed last year- brand new, yours is going on a friend's car- when he reimburses me.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:46 AM   #13
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Seems like the 4* cam ADV is hurting you a little bit. Do you know what cam you're running?
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Seems like the 4* cam ADV is hurting you a little bit. Do you know what cam you're running?
As far as I know, it is whatever is stock for a 92 roller.
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Old 10-23-2008, 10:18 PM   #15
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