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Old 06-22-2003, 06:38 PM   #1
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turbo timer, cant find wire to tap into ecu, got other wires ran and workin cant find the wire on ecu though its a 89 shadow 2.2 ne help would be awesome.
 
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Old 06-22-2003, 08:18 PM   #2
 
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Wire for what? What are the wires you need to hook up and what do they do?
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Old 06-23-2003, 01:15 AM   #3
 
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im sorry let me rephrase i was on my way out the door when i posted.....

We have a greddy turbo timer. The unit has 4 wires. Out of the 4 wires we have, power (constant), ground, accessory, and ignition source (ecm). we have the power to it, ground also, and accessory. Only wire left to hook up is the wire that goes to the computer (ignition source) to keep the car running after ignition is turned off. I cannot find this wire. Anything will help, color wire, wire schematic.

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p.s. tested voltage on timer all is good, just need the one wire
 
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what makes you think it is from the ECM?

what do the instructions say about this wire your looking for?

the "constant" goes to the batt. 12v all the time

the "accessory" is a wire that is 0v with the key off, 12v with the key in the "on" and "accessory" position and 0v with the key in the "start/crank" position. This should be a 14gage black wire comeing off your ignition switch on the stearing colum.

I think the "ignition" wire your looking for is 0v with key off and "accessory", 12v with the key in the "on" and "crank/start" position. And it should be a 14gage dark blue wire comming off the ignition switch on the colum.

I'll try and find greddy's web site and see if they got a install diagram so I kan see for myself what it is they want you to tap.
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like i said i have all but the ignition wire. i do not have the instructions the unit was used.
 
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:35 AM   #6
 
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OK I checked GReddy's site and there technical page and I was right you want the wires I mentioned befor.

the "accessory" is a wire that is 0v with the key off, 12v with the key in the "on" and "accessory" position and 0v with the key in the "start/crank" position. This should be a 14gage black wire comeing off your ignition switch on the stearing colum.

I think the "ignition" wire your looking for is 0v with key off and "accessory", 12v with the key in the "on" and "crank/start" position. And it should be a 14gage dark blue wire comming off the ignition switch on the colum.

You'll want to go to there site and check out the inst. for your turbo timer so you'll know how to set it up. It's in .PDF format so you'll need Adobe Acrobat reader to view it. If you don't have it search for it online and install it, it's free.

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you are awesome man thanks a million
 
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there is NO dark blue wire under dash at all, i tried a light blue 14 gague wire and it screwed the timer up, i was having it come on after shutoff and counting down it had the voltage read out to the igntion source perfect and everything now its all ****ed , i dont get it can rebuild a whole motor, cant intsall a timer sad
 
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Do you have a volt meter or a test light!?!?!?!

If you couldn't find the wire I told you to use than you can't just tap into the nearest **** thing or you'll fu*k your sh!t up.

First off, its not just under the dash any old place!!! I told you coming off of the ignition switch on top if the steering column. That means you have to remove the 5 nuts that hold the steering column up in the dash (unplug any of the other wires and connecters that might be hanging up on the column) now lower the column down onto the seat (or your lap) on the top of the column you'll see a rectangular thing with a bunch of large wires plugged into it. also running down the side of the "thing" is a metal rod that runs up to the key cylinder. turn the key and the rod moves and pushes the "thing". That thing is the ignition switch and those wires are the only ones you need to be fu*king with!!!!

Now that I have you in the right ball park (I hope you found it by now) you need to find the "accessory wire" and the "ignition wire". I know, I know, you've got the accessory done already, too bad, do it again the way I'm telling you just to be sure.

Take your test light or meter and your keys and with those big wires still plugged into the ignition switch find the wire that has NO POWER with the key in the "off" position and HAS POWER in the "accessory" and "on/run" position and NO POWER in the "start/crank" position. This wire should be black. Once you find it, connect you timers "accessory" wire to it.

Next is the "ignition wire". This wire has NO POWER with the key in the "off" and "accessory" position and HAS POWER with the key in the "on/run" position and the "start/crank" position. This wire should be dark blue. Once you find it connect the "ignition wire" from your timer to it.

If the colors aren’t right don't worry too much, Chry. has been known to change wire color codes some times. Just make sure the wire has the power "on" and "off" when I said it should.

Now that that is done I'm guessing you got the ground and battery wire right. But just to make sure, the batt. wire is not connected to just any wire with power when the car is off. Make sure it is a large wire that can hold a lot of power. The 2 best ways are to run another wire of the same size or bigger from your battery to the timer, or the timer "batt." wire can be connected to the big red wire on the ignition switch. The pink would work too but the red is best for this job. The ground must be a good clean metal surface on the body or frame with no paint, not just any piece of metal under the dash, some are week grounds that can't be trusted.

Now if you did everything the way I said to you are wired the way GReddy wants it done. All that is left is for you to go to GReddy's site and read the instructions and learn to program the dam thing.

If it still doesn't work than I would say you didn't program it right or it is broken.

And in the future!!!! DON'T BUY USED ELECTRICAL EQUIPTMENT WITH NO INSTRUCTIONS IF YOU DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT WIREING!!!!!!!!!! Buy new stuff and bring it to a audio shop and bring your wallet.

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Old 06-24-2003, 02:40 AM   #10
 
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i didnt mean under the dash i meant under the steering column, now i know where wire is i will find it and yes i used volt meter, timer is fine, thanks for all your help and sorry i pissed u off
 
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I have a 89 Turbo Voyager,and i've been playing with my HKS type 1,those two wires accesory and ignition,should they be in the similar place on my van? could they even be the similar color? i've got wiring diagrams and the wires it says i am looking for is Dark Blue,would this wire come off the steering wheel and into the main bulk of wires? One other thing,if i had all wires Ground,12v constant,and Acc,should the timer hypothetically light up? or will it need the igniton wire as well? thanks alot!
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