Super 60 turbo kit and turbo computers?????

[jdawg]

$188 is unheard of. List is $176.00. If u really want one i have a brand new one on the shelf, i'll sell for $155 shipped

[Shel-Game]

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Originally Posted by xrattiracer actually the charge temp sensor does very little. it is mostly just an early warning device that pulls timing if the charge temp exceeds a certain value. use a good intercooler and it will never even get used.

In addition to the fuel trim mentioned, on the T2, there is also a table that controls boost based on charge temp. Of course, all it does in stock form is to reduce boost above a certain charge temp. In modified cals, it could be used for other things...

[Reaper1]

Mentioning the 3D maps and all on the SBECII's, I thought that the SBECS also had 3D maps, but that they weren't of any real use to us? I'm no expert on the matter, just trying to learn.

One last thing...what about the 3.0?? Some of us still beleive there is power to be had in those engines from some tuning with the computer...not to mention a lot of people HATE the speed and rpm limiters. There wouldn't be that large of a market(just being honest), but there are people that are interested...

[MRBOOST]

The 90-91 SBEC's are 2D except for the T-III's which have 3D. I don't know about the TBI and V6 SBEC's though.

The V6 motors have been brought to our attention and I'll be looking into them after AZ. I'm going to finish the turbo cals that I still want to develop before really getting into the V6 stuff, but will most likely be able to do speed/RPM limiter shut off jobs rather soon.

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Originally Posted by Reaper1 Mentioning the 3D maps and all on the SBECII's, I thought that the SBECS also had 3D maps, but that they weren't of any real use to us? I'm no expert on the matter, just trying to learn. One last thing...what about the 3.0?? Some of us still beleive there is power to be had in those engines from some tuning with the computer...not to mention a lot of people HATE the speed and rpm limiters. There wouldn't be that large of a market(just being honest), but there are people that are interested...

[turbovanman]

You are the man Paul, can't wait to have my computer,

Why are the TIII maps 3D, because of the extra flow of the 16v head?

[moparzrule]

Yeah just forget about the super 60 ECU, it sucks. A super 60 doesn't read the O2 sensor at all, and you will run way rich all the time. It's mostly a race-only ECU.
Also, you have a 2.5L, all super 60 ECU's will be for 2.2's.

Go with a cal from TU once paul gets them done. In the mean time save your money to upgrade the turbo, MAP sensor, and fuel injectors. The super 60 is really the only good part about the kit, everything else sucks. The cams were prone to wearing down really fast, I think somewhere between 5000-15000 miles. The intercooler flows better but does not cool as well, and the ECU plain sucks.
I have a TU calibration, and I must say I could not be more pleased. The idle is better than stock, starts fine, runs great, and the fuel curves are dead on. I'm at 1500 EGT's at full boost. I'm anxious to see how it turned out as I had the ECU re-tuned for some more modifications I made but I not worried in the least about it not running good I just want to feel the power difference!!!

[moparzrule]

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Originally Posted by jdawg $188 is unheard of. List is $176.00. If u really want one i have a brand new one on the shelf, i'll sell for $155 shipped

Shipping is gonna be more than you think, he's in Sweden!

[MRBOOST]

Thanks Simon!

While I'm sure it helped out with that combo, Chrysler eventually moved everything up to 3D, I think the T-III was just the test bed, I'm speculating though. The TC Maserati was a 16V that used a 2D cal, it was based off the 89 T-II SMEC calibration even though it was a 90 MY vehicle.

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Originally Posted by turbovanman You are the man Paul, can't wait to have my computer, Why are the TIII maps 3D, because of the extra flow of the 16v head?

[MRBOOST]

Yeah, to rewire a 92 vehicle to use a S-60 ECU would be like putting hubcap spinners on a Bentley! Besides, like moparzrule said, it doesn't run a 2.5L well at all. The only upside would be that you could get the SMEC 3 BAR cals from me or any other vendor to run your car instead of waiting for the SBEC-II cals, you'd be in for some wiring and your body module would be out of commission. I have talked to someone who had a car or van running on 2 computers, I can't remember what combo of computers he had, but one ran the BCM, and the other ran the motor.

Hey Matt, I've seen a few posts where you've given me good feedback like below...Appreciate it man!

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Originally Posted by moparzrule Yeah just forget about the super 60 ECU, it sucks. A super 60 doesn't read the O2 sensor at all, and you will run way rich all the time. It's mostly a race-only ECU. Also, you have a 2.5L, all super 60 ECU's will be for 2.2's. Go with a cal from TU once paul gets them done. In the mean time save your money to upgrade the turbo, MAP sensor, and fuel injectors. The super 60 is really the only good part about the kit, everything else sucks. The cams were prone to wearing down really fast, I think somewhere between 5000-15000 miles. The intercooler flows better but does not cool as well, and the ECU plain sucks. I have a TU calibration, and I must say I could not be more pleased. The idle is better than stock, starts fine, runs great, and the fuel curves are dead on. I'm at 1500 EGT's at full boost. I'm anxious to see how it turned out as I had the ECU re-tuned for some more modifications I made but I not worried in the least about it not running good I just want to feel the power difference!!!

[Bladerunner]

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Originally Posted by moparzrule Shipping is gonna be more than you think, he's in Sweden!

I think he was referring the shipping cost to me, and I'm in Houston. I dunno though, he may have been referring the cost to someone else.

[moparzrule]

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner I think he was referring the shipping cost to me, and I'm in Houston. I dunno though, he may have been referring the cost to someone else.

Oh, I thought he was talking to the original thread starter, my bad!


Paul- Hey it's no problem! I just love to see someone good at there job, and when I see it I talk it up!

[Austrian Dodge]

do it like me, wait till paul has finished SBEC-II 3bar cals and then grab one

[ERACE]

How about the -92 computer is there a chargeair tempsensor ?
Do i need moore fuel when intercooling ?
I´ve read that inercooling is a must for boost raise.

[MRBOOST]

I'm not sure if the 92 T1's had IAT or not, but the 90-91 didn't and my guess would be no. I'll have to look into that when I get going on those cals.

You will need more fuel when intercooling, but most stock ECU's have enough to cover 14 PSI. I've run 14 PSI non intercooled with no extra fuel and had no problems, my friend did the same with an intercooler and had no problems, the factory cals have quite a bit of safty fuel in them, in fact some MP cals actually take a little fuel out at WOT.

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Originally Posted by ERACE How about the -92 computer is there a chargeair tempsensor ? Do i need moore fuel when intercooling ? I´ve read that inercooling is a must for boost raise.

[Austrian Dodge]

the '92 T1 doesn't have a chargeair temp. sensor.
but i'd like to know how to add the wires to make a chargeair temp sensor work in a '92 (custom calibration)