Super 60 turbo kit and turbo computers?????

[ERACE]

I drive an -92 Daytona IROC with 2,5 litres engine.
I just wonder if anyone does know if this parts from Moparperformance does fit my car.

SUPER 60 TURBO KIT

*P4529980 Super 60 Turbo Kit
Turbo computer

*P5249017 1989 2.5L Turbo I ATX
or
*P5249018 1989 2.5L Turbo I MTX

Anyone know the diffrence between ATX and MTX ?

[Shel-Game]

Nope, none of them will work on your car without major re-wiring.

ATX or MTX is manual trans or automatic. The only major difference is idle control.

[minimopar]

The Super 60 calibration is pretty out-dated. You are much better off with a custom cal from one of our vendors. TU will try to tune the cal to your specs.

[MRBOOST]

I appreciate the plug, still have to finish the SBEC II cals though.

I'm going to get to them, hang in there guys!

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Originally Posted by minimopar The Super 60 calibration is pretty out-dated. You are much better off with a custom cal from one of our vendors. TU will try to tune the cal to your specs.

[minimopar]

Ahh...forgot about the SBEC II. Wow...good luck with that.

[turbovanman]

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Originally Posted by MRBOOST I appreciate the plug, still have to finish the SBEC II cals though. I'm going to get to them, hang in there guys!

SBEC II? what the heck is that or am I opening a can of worms,

[MRBOOST]

It's not a big deal, 92+up are SBEC II, uses a different PROM, and has 3D maps. Doesn't work with earlier body modules either.

I've looked at them already to see what was going on, and I don't think they'll be hell to figure out or anything, just need the time.

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Originally Posted by turbovanman SBEC II? what the heck is that or am I opening a can of worms,

[turbovanman]

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Originally Posted by MRBOOST It's not a big deal, 92+up are SBEC II, uses a different PROM, and has 3D maps. Doesn't work with earlier body modules either. I've looked at them already to see what was going on, and I don't think they'll be hell to figure out or anything, just need the time.

So from a laymans point of view, what does that mean performance wise, better running, smoother, more power?

[minimopar]

Well, if you are trying to do a cal: more confusing.

[Austrian Dodge]

Keep us informed Paul about the SBEC-II cals.
Definitely need a 3bar one

[MRBOOST]

To the last 3 posts...

Turbovanman: "So from a laymans point of view, what does that mean performance wise, better running, smoother, more power?"
The 3D maps are more precise and give many more tuning points within a table, so they can be tuned closer then a cal with 2D maps, I would have to say they should run a little better the fuel control is very precise, but I'm sure as with most things that the driving force behind them at the factory was emissions.

Minimopar:"Well, if you are trying to do a cal: more confusing."
Hell yes! Probably take a lot longer to tune as well.

Austriandodge:"Keep us informed Paul about the SBEC-II cals.
Definitely need a 3bar one"
Will do, going to be a while on these though, I have more work done on the T-III cals for 90-91 so I should finish those first. There will be 2BAR first, and 3BAR will follow shortly after. From the response I'm getting on the GLHS 3BAR cals, I'm really looking forward to releasing them.

[Bladerunner]

I did a bit of searching, and found a super 60 computer out in Az., at a dealership, for $188. The Mopar book said that it (the s 60 comp.) would open the wastegate up to 11 lbs. of boost instead of 8, and that it was a direct fit placement. On the other hand, I was informed that I could not just simply "slap on an intercooler and go", but that I would need a Shelby computer to intercool it. Is this true? Any info or feedback will be appreciated.

[Shel-Game]

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Originally Posted by Bladerunner I did a bit of searching, and found a super 60 computer out in Az., at a dealership, for $188. The Mopar book said that it (the s 60 comp.) would open the wastegate up to 11 lbs. of boost instead of 8, and that it was a direct fit placement. On the other hand, I was informed that I could not just simply "slap on an intercooler and go", but that I would need a Shelby computer to intercool it. Is this true? Any info or feedback will be appreciated.

You can "slap" on an intercooler and go. People do it all the time. But, you will need a computer with the Charge Temp sensor "turned on" in order for the computer to fully compensate for the reduced charge temps the intercooler will provide. Any of the T2 computers will have the charge temp enabled. Most of the cal vendors can supply a custom cal based on just about anything and have the charge temp enabled.

[xrattiracer]

actually the charge temp sensor does very little. it is mostly just an early warning device that pulls timing if the charge temp exceeds a certain value. use a good intercooler and it will never even get used.

[contraption22]

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Originally Posted by xrattiracer actually the charge temp sensor does very little. it is mostly just an early warning device that pulls timing if the charge temp exceeds a certain value. use a good intercooler and it will never even get used.

Input from the Charge temp sensor also allows the computer to adjust a/f mixture based on temp. For instance, if you have added a bigger intercooler, or if the outside temperature is way cold.. the computer will compensate somewhat with fuel.. even at full throttle.