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03-28-2005, 03:39 PM
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Pix wanted: 3 bar MAP sensor in a GLHS
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Connecticut
My Ride: 1986 GLHS #126
Engine: stock
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.920
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Paul at TU tells me their 3 bar logic modules for the GLHS car are ready to go, but the buyer must take care of a new 3 bar MAP sensor installation.
Has anyone installed one of these TU LM's in their GLHS and if so can you post pix of the 3 bar MAP sensor installation? thanks.
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03-28-2005, 04:22 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Las Vegas
My Ride: 94 Dodge Caravan
Engine: 3.0L V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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just use a GM syle 3 bar map sensor from Summit Racing. You'll need a connector as well since the stock Chrysler connector will not work on the GM sensor.
Wink
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03-28-2005, 04:23 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Connecticut
My Ride: 1986 GLHS #126
Engine: stock
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.920
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yes thanks but i need pix to show the install, i do plan on getting the sensor from TU.
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03-28-2005, 04:36 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Las Vegas
My Ride: 94 Dodge Caravan
Engine: 3.0L V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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03-28-2005, 04:49 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Hagerstown, MD
My Ride: 88 sundance
Induct: Turbo
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wow great info because i'm gettin ready to start upgrading
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03-28-2005, 05:38 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by mwinkle353
just use a GM syle 3 bar map sensor from Summit Racing. You'll need a connector as well since the stock Chrysler connector will not work on the GM sensor.
Wink
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Yes it will, you just have to cut out a bit of the connector, you'll be able to see what I mean when you look at the connector and sensor.
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03-28-2005, 05:46 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Las Vegas
My Ride: 94 Dodge Caravan
Engine: 3.0L V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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Damnit. You're right. I was thinking of the map sensor connector on the 3.0L for some damn reason. Man, I need to keep the different motors better seperated in my mind. Cause it's statements like this that make me look more ignorant that I really am. LOL If that's possible.
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03-28-2005, 05:46 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Connecticut
My Ride: 1986 GLHS #126
Engine: stock
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.920
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i dont think the glhs cars use the grey connector shown in the link above.
i was hoping to view a glhs-specific install, remembering the cars use a logic module and a power module, not a SMEC like the later turbo cars.
thanks for link, but i still cant picture how the heck to install the MAP sensor to the LM.
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03-28-2005, 05:49 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Las Vegas
My Ride: 94 Dodge Caravan
Engine: 3.0L V6
Induct: N/A
1/4: 0.000
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Do you know where your stock map sensor is? If so, and if the connector won't fit into the 3 bar map you purchase; then just get a 3 pin weather tight connector and splice into the original map sensor wires.
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03-28-2005, 06:26 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Prescott, AZ
My Ride: 1985 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 Turbo
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1/4: 14.900
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with a GLHS you'll have to install an underhood map, or mount the 3bar near the LM in the car...
I had a pigtail from a map sensor that I plugged into the LM, then ran the connector from there, through the hole for the vac tube that was through the firewall grommett.
Then, I wrapped the wiring, put it in conduit, mounted the underhood map on the inner fender, hooked up the baro solenoid, ran a new vac line, and presto - underhood map. Much cleaner, easier, and better throttle response too.
This was on my charger btw.
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03-28-2005, 07:02 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
My Ride: 1989 Turbo Caravan
Engine: 2.5L 8V Sohc
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.400
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Originally Posted by mwinkle353
Damnit. You're right. I was thinking of the map sensor connector on the 3.0L for some damn reason. Man, I need to keep the different motors better seperated in my mind. Cause it's statements like this that make me look more ignorant that I really am. LOL If that's possible.
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No worries, we all make mistakes.
Now Marcus has me wondering, haven't seen an Omni Map in ages so can't remember what the connector looks like now, doh!
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03-28-2005, 07:06 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Prescott, AZ
My Ride: 1985 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 Turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 14.900
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its 3 wires (duh) flat, and it connects on the MAP sensor (mounted on the LM), and a vac line goes into the LM (onto the map). When I bought a used LM from an '86 lebaron years ago it had a pigtail and a 'cover' (gutted stock MAP). So I ran an underhood map with it.
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03-28-2005, 08:42 PM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Dearborn, Michigan
My Ride: 87 Daytona Shelby Z
Engine: 2.5L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.130
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That connector in the picture at the bottom of that page is what you need. The connector for the internal MAP is a different shape and that's why it needs to be changed to use the 3 BAR.
What I was saying in that PM a while back is if you can get a connector with a length of wire from a yard I'll solder it in for you since we haven't been able to get anywhere on developing the jumper harness.
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Originally Posted by Marcus86GLHS
i dont think the glhs cars use the grey connector shown in the link above.
i was hoping to view a glhs-specific install, remembering the cars use a logic module and a power module, not a SMEC like the later turbo cars.
thanks for link, but i still cant picture how the heck to install the MAP sensor to the LM.
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03-29-2005, 06:03 AM
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Naturally Aspirated
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Connecticut
My Ride: 1986 GLHS #126
Engine: stock
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.920
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good info.....a picture of a 3 bar map sensor actually installed in the LM would do me a world of good. pix speak a thousands words like they say.
CHRIS can you snap a pix of this mod from one of your customer cars? once i feel confident i can accomplish the MAP swap i can then order one of your calibrations, thanks.
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