TurboDodge.com MarketPlace Shelby Registry Contact Us

Advertisement - Remove these ads today by clicking here.
 

Go Back   TurboDodge.Com - Turbo Dodge forum for Turbo Mopars, Shelbys, Daytona, SRT-4, PT Cruiser, Omni and more! > Turbo Dodge Technical Chat > Engine Management, Fuel, Spark, EGTs, and Air/Fuel Ratios

Engine Management, Fuel, Spark, EGTs, and Air/Fuel Ratios This forum includes modification, tuning, repair, replacement, identification and restoration of all components mentioned above including SMEC, SBEC, Logic Modules, aftermarket engine management, etc. Nitrous oxide posts go in here. This is the place

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools

Old 05-04-2005, 06:08 PM   #16
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Phoenix, az

My Ride: td
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 909
Feedback: (0)
If you beat a low 14 second car then your van is obviously pretty quick...however it will depend on your driving and how much boost you throw at it if you want 13's. What is the rrr's base pressure set at? Can you do a burnout? How long does it take for boost to come up while powerbreaking? At what rpm do you have full boost while driving?
Geoff is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2005, 08:14 PM   #17
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Peterborough, Ontario

My Ride: 89 Chrysler Daytona
Engine: 88 2.2 T1-T2 upgrade
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 15.800

Posts: 1,327
Feedback: (1)
If you have been running that rich, you should change your oil pretty soon...
daytonajesse is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2005, 12:32 PM   #18
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ottawa Lake, Michigan

My Ride: 1999 Jeep Wrangler
Engine: AMC 2.5L
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 624
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by daytonajesse
If you have been running that rich, you should change your oil pretty soon...
Heard that! (already did)

Looks like my tune ended up this way:
fuel psi @ idle = 20psi
@ "0" vac = 35psi
ramps up 2:1 from there.... 15psi boost = 65psi fuel pressure
@15psi boost on comes the alky @ 15gal/hr rate.

It's still a little on the "rich" side, but at least it's not "pig rich"!

Runs like a mutha now. The trans will probably grenade before the end of the summer.
TRRBOJEEP is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2005, 02:16 PM   #19
getting closer...  
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, KY

My Ride: Minivan
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 179
Feedback: (0)
TRRBOJeep...I Alway wanted to turbo a jeep. Except I wanted to do the 4.0 I-6...It looks soooo easy on that motor. Nobody would see it coming
Last Cherokee I had had Factory Posi and the transfer case that lets you drive in full-time 4x4 (AWD)...would have been sick

You guys are dead nuts on the oil...It's gotta go! See if I can do it this weekend.

I tuned it a lil over lunch and I think it's getting alot closer. Feels pretty good. So far: 26psi static..17 idle (sputters a hair at startup) FMU is set with 3.5:1 gain. I finally got my shop compressor and it made tuning that FMU a walk in the park. Also had to put a valve on the FMU's signal line to tune. I couldn't get it down far enough with a restrictor.
BoostedToys is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-05-2005, 02:21 PM   #20
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Prescott, AZ

My Ride: 1985 Shelby Charger
Engine: 2.2 Turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 14.900

Posts: 1,753
Feedback: (0)
yeah, +40%'s are a bit big from what others have done... +20's probably would have worked better.

its hard to say what to do, either spend the $$ on new injectors (again) or buy a custom cal... or trade the injectors. Gotta lean that thing out a bit to really get the most out of it, or you'll just suck gas and not go very fast.
Phreakish is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2005, 02:42 AM   #21
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Phoenix, az

My Ride: td
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 909
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostedToys

I tuned it a lil over lunch and I think it's getting alot closer. Feels pretty good. So far: 26psi static..17 idle (sputters a hair at startup) FMU is set with 3.5:1 gain. I finally got my shop compressor and it made tuning that FMU a walk in the park. Also had to put a valve on the FMU's signal line to tune. I couldn't get it down far enough with a restrictor.

3.5-1 seems high to me, have you tried turning the fmu down yet? That actualy seems damn high to me for +40's. I would think that 1.5-1 or slightly higher would be more than enough fuel for your setup. Do you have an egt gauge?
Geoff is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2005, 04:44 AM   #22
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mannheim, Germany

My Ride: '91 Shadow Vert
Engine: 2.5 turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.880

Posts: 1,699
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phreakish
yeah, +40%'s are a bit big from what others have done... +20's probably would have worked better.
Is there an injector between the +20 and +40?
John B is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2005, 04:49 AM   #23
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Mannheim, Germany

My Ride: '91 Shadow Vert
Engine: 2.5 turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 13.880

Posts: 1,699
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostedToys
Lowered Base fuel pressure to 15 psi
I wish I could do that! What kind of AFPR are you using? Mine will only go down to 25psi.
John B is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2005, 06:32 AM   #24
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Chilliwack, BC

1/4: 0.000

Posts: 790
Feedback: (0)
Is your wastegate operating properly? Like, does it pull hard still?


Whitewalls....ewww.
Chadxton is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2005, 10:17 PM   #25
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Feb 2003

1/4: 0.000

Posts: 1,971
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff
3.5-1 seems high to me, have you tried turning the fmu down yet? That actualy seems damn high to me for +40's. I would think that 1.5-1 or slightly higher would be more than enough fuel for your setup. Do you have an egt gauge?
+1. At 15 PSI, it would be adding 52.5 PSI, add that to your 27PSI static pressure, and you should be able to support way more HP than you could probably make with your current setup. Slowly lowering the ratio of the RRR would probably be the way to go.
OmniGuy123 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-07-2005, 10:44 PM   #26
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Houston Texas

My Ride: 89 Shadow
Engine: 2.5 turbo
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 12.990

Posts: 1,662
Feedback: (0)
how is ur o2 sensor
Moparbishi is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 12:05 PM   #27
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, KY

My Ride: Minivan
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 179
Feedback: (0)
3.0acclaim...O2 is new.

Cordes...3.5:1 gain (now set to 3:1) is overall. At 20 psi boost I have 60psi fuel pressure

Chadxton... Wastegate works well and the whitewalls...well.. they're as sleeper as you get!

John B... AFPR is stock one modified with the bearing cap method. You are right though...25 psi static (no signal line) 17 Psi @ idle (with signal line).

Geoff... I don't have an Egt. I started at 3.5:1 based on Gus Mahon recommendations (3:1). Have you seen similar setups run much less gain?
BoostedToys is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 12:13 PM   #28
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Princeton NJ

My Ride: 94 Ford Lightning
Engine: 351W v8
Induct: N/A
1/4: 69.000

Posts: 1,961
Feedback: (0)
Man, what a bummer. My van would smoke em with 14 psi. Of course it'd take about 5 mph before they broke loose, but that was on a pretty stock van with a garrett and an NPR.

d
Subliminal is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 12:16 PM   #29
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Jul 2004

My Ride: 88 Shelby Z
Engine: 2.2 T2
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 403
Feedback: (0)
You would benefit greatly from a) some dyno time with a wideband, b) a calibration based on the dyno information.
D-Cal is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-2005, 01:30 PM   #30
 
Naturally Aspirated
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Phoenix, az

My Ride: td
Engine: 2.5
Induct: Turbo
1/4: 0.000

Posts: 909
Feedback: (0)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoostedToys

Geoff... I don't have an Egt. I started at 3.5:1 based on Gus Mahon recommendations (3:1). Have you seen similar setups run much less gain?
Sorry I didn't see this reply. Running a big valve menegon head, ported manifold and a stock garrett(probly flowing close to the same amount of air as you), my stock injectors and stock 1-1 regulator gave me enough fuel for 12psi. If your going to tune with the rrr you really should get an egt gauge so you can safely lower your rate of gain, and I still think you should only need 2-1 or lower. If you want to eliminate any other possible problems try switching back to the stock injectors and regulator and setting boost to 12psi or so. You should be able to smoke the tires up pretty well. Also, at what rpm are you seeing full boost?
Geoff is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Quick Nav
- Home
- Classifieds
- Timeslips
- Gallery
- Vendors
-- Directory
- Tech Articles
- Donate
Sponsors
remove ads

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.1
Loans |