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Old 04-17-2004, 05:34 PM   #1
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I need to make some new brake lines for my Shelby Lancer. It's the hard line that goes along the rear trailing arm to the flexible caliper line. I need to buy a flaring tool but I'm not sure which to buy????

Double flare tool set:
http://www.toolsource.com/ost/produc...1N8XNPP8V32G08

Bubble flare tool set:
http://www.toolsource.com/ost/produc...1N8XNPP8V32G08
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Also, should I get a standard or metric toolset?

As far as I know the brake line is 3/16", but I'm not 100% certain...
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i need to know this too..
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the fittings i just undid for both fronts were 3/8" except where the right front went into the prop valve. it was 7/16"
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The double-flaring toolset is what you want. Plus for brakes, for the lines anyways an imperial set of wrenches will work. Not 100% sure on the bleeder screws though. I have both metric and imperial in my box, I just use the one that fits best. ;)

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Nice link that has a pic showing the difference between bubble and double. I'm learning too! WEEEEEE!

http://www.pharmacy.arizona.edu/staf...ubleFlare.html
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alright! that about covers it. now all i need to do is buy a few feet of line and rent that tool..
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Can you get new brake line in bulk that have the spring wrapped around it like stock?
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Can you get new brake line in bulk that have the spring wrapped around it like stock?
I just bought 6' of line from the local place. No spring around it though. I got a flaring tool on a loan-a-tool program as well as a tubing bender. I'm gonna practice with my old line before doing the new one. I'm just going to re-use the fittings off my old line since they're in good shape and already the size I need.

For the drivers side I just bought a 1' length of cable already fitted with the correct flares on it so it'll be a bend and bolt on. If you have the same fittings on your car on each end, you should be able to buy one prevously done from just about anywhere. You'll just have to bend it and bolt it on.

BTW in cdn prices the 1' pre-cut and fitted line cost me $2.49 and the lone 6' piece that I'm doing myself cost about $5. So there's room to make mistakes and not go broke buying more line and trying again
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The parts stores near me carry brake line with fittings and all already installed. All you have do is measure the size and how long your line is and buy the closest length. Bend it up how you need to and install! If in doubt of the size they should be able to find the size either in the computer or in one of thier brake products books.
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So would NAPA have the premade stuff? I'd have the SL back on the road that much faster...
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The Napa up here does have pre-made stuff but Canada and US Napa's have some differences. Also the reason I have to flare mine myself is that I have a 3/8" fitting to the rubber brake line and a 7/16" fitting to the prop valve on my passenger side and they don't have anything like that pre-made. You might want to double check your car too before buying any pre-made lines.
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Watch out for worn flare tools at the auto stores. If you are in doubt ask to look at another one and compare. Also when doing the double flare be sure to grease the line. It will give you a much better flare. You can always clean teh grease off when finished. Just a tip.
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Napa should probably have line in stock. I know that the NAPA, O'Reilly's, Advance Auto, and Car Quest in Lincoln all carry the premade lines. Also try to find if there is a brake&clutch business in town, our local brake&clutch store has the line in stock as well and usually has the oddball sizes that the parts stores don't carry. They also carry all the parts and tools you'd ever need in case of a f'up when doing the brake lines.
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All done. The flaring was pretty easy. It was all the bending that was actually a PITA. Not that hard, but pretty finicky...
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