Fixing the understeer... L-body.

[Vigo]

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due to tires rubbing coils

tires rubbing coils as in coil springs? i dont know much about the l-body suspension off the top of my head but i cant think of how that would happen on a k-car. rubbing the shock body i can see. anyway a solid track bar would/should prevent either of those from happening, right?

[BLUEBALL]

this was before i added the plate and raced regular. on the l body the spring is mounted on the shock unlike other body styles. in heavy lean w/wide tires,they will contact.get off the net and take a peek,you'll be able to see.

[Vigo]

l-bodies of any kind are a RARE bird where im at.. ive been looking for any kind of decent omni for over a year now.. in a city of 2 million.. believe me if it was out there id have it

[OmniSRT4]

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Originally posted by Vigo tires rubbing coils as in coil springs? i dont know much about the l-body suspension off the top of my head but i cant think of how that would happen on a k-car. rubbing the shock body i can see. anyway a solid track bar would/should prevent either of those from happening, right?

All L's have the "coil-over-shock" design in the rear. This is why we get to have Ground Control adjustable coil overs!

There wouldnt be anywhere to mount a spring on a L body oth than the shock with its current design.

[OmniSRT4]

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Originally posted by BLUEBALL this was before i added the plate and raced regular. on the l body the spring is mounted on the shock unlike other body styles. in heavy lean w/wide tires,they will contact.get off the net and take a peek,you'll be able to see.

How wide where the tires?

What size/type of rim?

What was the offset?

[OmniSRT4]

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Originally posted by BadAndy [b]I know they are different and I'm not confusing the two. I am however confused in that both are a solid design yet the addition of a swaybar to one will perform as intended but yet the addition of a swaybar to the other will not.

They arent both a "solid" design. Although the L-body rear suspension is a 1 peice design, it is not a "solid axle" design.

A solid axle design will connect 2 wheels directly, in-line.

On the L, the wheels are connected, but not "in-line".

The cross beam is there is a lateral stabilizer and twist axle "sway bar" as the trailing arms would otherwise be fully independent of each other.

In fact, you could, in theory, remove the crossbeam completely and then weld in a very large sway bar and the suspension would remain the same.

Its pretty hard to explain how it is setup without visual aids....



As for them not functoining "as intended"... not true.

The L system is essentially a sway bar with wheels, so all you are doing is adding strength to the swaybar with wheels.

[Vigo]

well if im getting what you're saying, then l-body suspension has the bar connecting the trailing arms not directly between the wheels but farther up the trailing arms closer to the pivot point and the body, than the only difference between the function of stiffening the l-body rear suspension and the k-body suspension is that the l's have a shorter effort arm and need less stiffening to perform the same function then the k suspension would. since the bar across the k axle is at the very end of the control arm there is more leverage (the trailing arm being the lever) and thus you would need more stiffness to counteract it. doesnt sound like the antisway function is very different, just that the bar is in a different place on the trailing arm, which only effects how much twist is placed on the beam for a given amount of wheel travel.

then again im only going off the impression i get from these descriptions, and not pics.



some l-body owner here has got to have a pic of their rear suspension??