Falken Aziens

[1_bad_CS]

I've got the 6.5 crabs on my Daytona, and it needs new tires. I have read that the falkens are a very good tire. I also read that the 205s are like regular 225s is that true also can you tell me about what these tires should cost.

[Vigo]

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...ypeCode=FALHV2


they're great if you want the most grip a street tire can give you and can handle that they wont last over a year. they're also the best street tire in wet weather, as long as there is not significant standing water, like over .5 inch. they also look sweet.

77 bucks a piece shipped.

[1_bad_CS]

Thank you a lot.
Grant

I on the other hand thought they were horrible tires.....I bought them because I was told they were the tire of choice...they may be for cornering and stuff, but for my application ( straight line and high torque) I smoked them like crazy through the redline of second gear...I sold them the very next day.

[Vigo]

an srt-4 will do that to anything short of drag slicks unless the DRIVER does something about it.

they are not ideal for drag launches on high powered cars, but for most, they still hook better than street tires.

ive seen many low powered car like miatas and civics launch at around 5k rpm with little to no spin on these tires. likewise, the top 5 paxers in my autocross group are all driving on them. not to say that slicks dont pull faster times and grip better (while they last), but just pointing out that if this tire isnt good enough for you for a street tires you've probly got a loose nut behind the steering wheel as opposed to an actual tire problem.

maybe...I keep trying different methods etc etc.....I bought a set of bfg g-force drag radials today...will give them a try....
thanks for your input by the way...next time, instead of playing the expert 1/2 way....finish it off with an explanation of how you would launch a fwd car w/ torque w/o tire spin.
Thanks for time anyway

[Mystryguy]

youve gotta slip the clutch to the point where the car isnt bogging but isnt spinning (much) I'm not saying ride it either, a good launch is only a split second ride out usually around 4-4500 rpm. Its tricky but is the way to go if you have a good clutch.

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Originally posted by Mystryguy youve gotta slip the clutch to the point where the car isnt bogging but isnt spinning (much) I'm not saying ride it either, a good launch is only a split second ride out usually around 4-4500 rpm. Its tricky but is the way to go if you have a good clutch.

I am working on that....still dont have it down.....hoping the new rubber gives me a better base to learn with.......the stock clutch has already been replaced once.......still hard to do, you get all excited about jumping the car out of the hole, the flag drops and away you go....and end up smoking them even though you know you are supposed to feather it......still working on it....still, I suck at it........Thanks :-)

[Shelby VNT]

Launch softer, short shift into 2nd, and avoid going WOT in 1st. I find the best launches in my CSX to happen when I tach up to 2500 - 3K RPM. I let the clutch out till it starts to grab, adding more throttle to keep the RPM's steady. Be semi-aggressive with the clutch in releasing it once it does start to grab. You don't want to slip it alot, just enough so you don't bog the engine. It takes practice. When you master it, you'll get a little tire spinning in first, at say half throttle, but only on the launch. Should you go to WOT just because the urge is there to do so, shift just before the car wants to light the tires in 1st.

[theCSXmachine]

I bought some 225/45-17 Azenis for the front of my CSX... will report later (IF I EVER FINISH THIS *** **** CAR)

[Vigo]

"instead of playing the expert 1/2 way....finish it off with an explanation of how you would launch a fwd car w/ torque w/o tire spin."

point taken but what i said is still true.

and i hate to be a smart ass but if you can only launch as hard as your tires will let you than thats just something you have to deal with until you get better tires. also is it spin or wheelhop? ive heard srt-4s have nasty wheelhop. i know a guy with one (autocross, ddr site, and he lives like 2 miles away) but i havent ridden in it yet.

[Shelby VNT]

I really don't know anybody that doesn't have traction issues with a high powered fwd car. It's the nature of the beast. Our turbo cars with light mods will burn any kind of tire, short of a slick, in the first or first couple of gears.

[89daytonaTII]

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Originally posted by Shelby VNT Launch softer, short shift into 2nd, and avoid going WOT in 1st. I find the best launches in my CSX to happen when I tach up to 2500 - 3K RPM. I let the clutch out till it starts to grab, adding more throttle to keep the RPM's steady. Be semi-aggressive with the clutch in releasing it once it does start to grab. You don't want to slip it alot, just enough so you don't bog the engine. It takes practice. When you master it, you'll get a little tire spinning in first, at say half throttle, but only on the launch. Should you go to WOT just because the urge is there to do so, shift just before the car wants to light the tires in 1st.

I was told by a local TD'er that launching a VNT is a completly different animal. he's an avid dragster and swapped his VNT out for a garrett. say's the garrett bog's so much easier, and that with the VNT you can take your foot off the gas if you start to spin too much and get right back in it with no lag. the garrett isn't the same though.

Launching is a tricky art, for me I find that there is a fine line between too little rpm and a bog or too much rpm and excessive tire spin. maybe my setup is a little easier to bog due to the T4 compressor though. either way you just have to find that fine line and slip the clutch along it.

too bad we weren't talking auto's here... soo simple.

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Originally posted by Vigo "instead of playing the expert 1/2 way....finish it off with an explanation of how you would launch a fwd car w/ torque w/o tire spin." point taken but what i said is still true. and i hate to be a smart ass but if you can only launch as hard as your tires will let you than thats just something you have to deal with until you get better tires. also is it spin or wheelhop? ive heard srt-4s have nasty wheelhop. i know a guy with one (autocross, ddr site, and he lives like 2 miles away) but i havent ridden in it yet.

its spinning like crazy if you let it...I have made all my own solid mounts..helps tame the wheel hop....
and I do know, I can only launch as hard as the tires allow...its just hard w/ stockers not to light 'em up......making serious power, and even better...tons o' torque...its tough on the stock pilots.......I am sure with the BFG DR's...I will indeed do better...cant really do worse :-)

[Vigo]

blame dodge for putting 205s on a fwd that puts at least 250lb ft to the wheels..

at least they have an LSD now.

btw, which size azeni sports did you get??? i thought even the smallest 17 (225) was too big for a 6.0 inch wide wheel?