new VNT`s for $430 shipped and problem

[GLHSHELBY]

I was wondering if anyone else has purchased a new vnt turbo from Roscoe in LA? I received my turbo fine,and then after installing it I noticed the wastegate nipple wasn`t there. I called Roscoe and he said he sent it to me with the nipple bent and that I must have tried to straighten it and it broke.So,I checked the box it came in and there it was. He told me to solder it on and that it was my fault. Well I tried to solder it just because I want the car running and either it won`t solder or I`m not good at it. Has anyone else has good experiences with this person? He seems very nice and sent the turbo right away,but why would he send it to me knowing the nipple was bent and wouldn`t work.OH,he also told me I could change the canister,and there isn`t a wrench or ratchet that can get to the bottom bolt on the canister bracket.Just in case this guy isn`t gonna be honest does anyone know any tricks to get this bolt off??

[90DodgeVNT]

I remember taking the canister off my VNT turbo about 1.5 years ago while it was still on the car. Ya, that was fun. You need the smallest wrenches you can find (I dont recall the size) to get it apart (prob like a 4-6 mm open end)

[GLHSHELBY]

It`s 10mm.I can get the top one but the wrench won`t get to the bottom one

[GLHSHELBY]

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Originally Posted by GLHSHELBY It`s 10mm.I can get the top one but the wrench won`t get to the bottom one

I finally got the bottom one off while on the car,but the snap ring flew. Does anyone know where I can find another one? I ended up having to pull the head again. I couldn`t get the top brack bolt off.

[GLHSHELBY]

I`m gonna replace the head gasket again and head bolts as I`m sure they need it even though it hasn`t been ran. I know the head bolts can`t be reused but I believe the gasket is bad once it`s torqued down also.

[Mike Radowski]

If you go with arp bolts or studs you can reuse them.

[GLHSHELBY]

One other person has emailed me saying their turbo showed up with the nipple bent on the canister also. Has anyone got a turbo from Roscoe that didn`t have a bent nipple?

[Mystryguy]

bah i re use headbolts quie often up to 3 times and never had a problem. just measure them for stretch.

[Shadow16V]

If he is the one selling the Turbos on ebay it looks like the turbo pictured in the auction both have bent nipples. I'm sure it the same picture, but it sounds to be common among all the Turbo's he's selling.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEBI%3AIT

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEBI%3AIT

Yes, I've been bidding on them. I still want to hang a VNT off the Back of my DOHC '98 Neon R/T. I'll just know better than try to bend the nipple back into position.

[fish2222]

I guess thats why I try not to buy stuff like that on Ebay...

[turbovanman]

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Originally Posted by Shadow16V If he is the one selling the Turbos on ebay it looks like the turbo pictured in the auction both have bent nipples. I'm sure it the same picture, but it sounds to be common among all the Turbo's he's selling. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEBI%3AIT http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEBI%3AIT Yes, I've been bidding on them. I still want to hang a VNT off the Back of my DOHC '98 Neon R/T. I'll just know better than try to bend the nipple back into position.

Good eye, yeah, if you look you can see the top one bent over pretty good!

[itzmepete]

Well, I just bought a new turbo from Roscoe. I am an A&P Licensed aircraft mechanic and will say this. How could you get a turbo and not see the can was missing a nipple? After seeing the bent nipple on the pic on ebay, that is the FIRST thing I would have looked at when I pull my turbo out of the box. To not see it untill its been INSTALLED is VERY HARD to believe. First instinct would tell me to starighten it, Roscoe went out of his way to tell me his experience in that it WILL break off if you try and do so, I will leave it alone, why make the same mistake.
These are the LAST of the LAST on these new VNT turbo's, plain and simple. So some nipples are bent, some cans might have a ding and thats life. At the price he is selling them , you could buy a new can and still be under $500 for a unit that sold originally for $1200. You also could rebuilt your unit and use your old can for I dunno maybe $400 and have a rebuilt turbo, not new. There are some issues with rebuilt VNT's I read about. Seems some rebuilders do not set the VNT angles correctly or something. So, buy a new one or rebuild, at $400 its a deal. Roscoe went into detail about getting a new oil line, replacing all oil lines and so forth and even giving me p/n's. As an aircraft mechanic, I was trained and I am smart enough that I will change all the lines, water and oil. In aviation, all lines get replaced at 10 years no matter what. These VNT's in our cars are 15 years old! You could flex that line while changing the turbo, a small piece of that line breaks off from the inside and blocks the oil from getting to the bearings and you new turbo is toast over a oil line being reused. Cleaning is a BIG mistake as well. I ADVISE anyone that needs a new turbo to get one while they are available! As for Roscoe, he is very knowledgable in this field and an asset to us Turbo fans that need info. We are all in this for the same reason, our love of cars and especially the VNT's. I know I got a great deal on my new VNT turbo.
Peter 90 VNT Daytona Shelby

[GLHSHELBY]

I bought my turbo from him by phone call.I didn`t see a picture of it. He also made no mention of the nipple and that it could be a problem. When it`s not there to begin with and you`ve never seen a vnt turbo before off the car it`s not something that pops out at you. He even told me that he shipped me one with a bent nipple when I called him with the problem. That`s one reason I started this thread because a lot of people here will know what to look for when the turbo arrives. I know you save money over other places and since Roscoe knows these turbo`s I`m sure he can mention the nipple problem to the people. Mine ended up being in the box the turbo came in. I took the wastegate off the old turbo.This ended up costing me an additional $40 because of the nipple being broke and I`m just trying to tell people in case it happens to them.

[90DodgeVNT]

The VNT turbo can be rebuilt for $300 and a 3-4 day turnaround by John Craig at Limit Engineering (www.limitengineering.com). Even if the vac canister was bad, new ones can be found in the $100 range (call around to the various rebuilders like I did).

Personally, I would find one *used* in the $100-$150 range and get it rebuilt then buy something that was dropped or bounced off the floor and damaged. Now I am not bashing the person who is selling them in any way, and the price is decent for what you get, but by not 100% being honest with the buyer on the bent nipple(s) (from being dropped I presume) or the possibility of any other damage is a bit dishonest.

[GLHSHELBY]

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Originally Posted by 90DodgeVNT The VNT turbo can be rebuilt for $300 and a 3-4 day turnaround by John Craig at Limit Engineering (www.limitengineering.com). Even if the vac canister was bad, new ones can be found in the $100 range (call around to the various rebuilders like I did). Personally, I would find one *used* in the $100-$150 range and get it rebuilt then buy something that was dropped or bounced off the floor and damaged. Now I am not bashing the person who is selling them in any way, and the price is decent for what you get, but by not 100% being honest with the buyer on the bent nipple(s) (from being dropped I presume) or the possibility of any other damage is a bit dishonest.

This is 100% correct.I also checked his current auction and he still has made no note of the nipple in his auction and he does know it`s a problem.You can obviously see that it`s bent.