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Old 01-26-2006, 09:45 AM   #46
 
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That looks like it flow insane numbers I cant wait to see what the 8V looks like.
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Old 01-26-2006, 05:45 PM   #47
 
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back to back dyno testing would be nice. stock, mildly modded, and a little higher modded vehicle.

ive always been skeptical about people making their own intakes.. lets see some #'s!
How do you people expect to have back to back dyno testing? You even want three different modified vehicles. How are you going to determine what "mods" are considered "mildly modded" and "a little higher modded vehicle?" There's so many different combinations you can go with on these cars, those back to back dyno numbers are going to be useless to nost people.

Also, a major influence on how much of a gain you get with a different intake, is how well your head is ported and who did the porting.

On top of all this, that intake bolted on a completely stock set-up including stock head, is going to be way different on that same stock car, but with a ported head (even mild porting) because that intake on a stock head, is going to have a major disruption in flow when it hit's the ports on the head.
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Old 01-26-2006, 06:10 PM   #48
 
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How do you people expect to have back to back dyno testing? You even want three different modified vehicles. .
The downside to a back to back test would be you would need to
run exact same TB and injectors on a known HP vehicle, changing
one thing like the intake may change air and fuel need's.

Kinda like unbolting a 2BC Rochester two barrel carb from you
327 Chevy and trying to run a Weiand 9" high rise single plenum.
Probably futile results IMHO, you need to design your induction
system on paper and follow a plan like the rest of motor.
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Old 01-26-2006, 06:13 PM   #49
 
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But thats the point, you get a baseline engine, modded of course as you won't be buying one of these for a stock engine. Dyno it, test another manifold and test another one. If the engine doesn't respond, then it doesn't work. Theory and looks are great but data is king.
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Old 01-26-2006, 06:15 PM   #50
 
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The weather will play a role as well in the back to back tests. As well as what turbo you're running, intercooler, throttle body, and on, and on, and on.
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Old 01-26-2006, 06:18 PM   #51
 
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The weather will play a role as well in the back to back tests. As well as what turbo you're running, intercooler, throttle body, and on, and on, and on.

Thats what a dyno does, it corrects all that stuff. Would you buy a ported cylinder head without specs? why buy a nice looking intake without data.

AGain, if you run it on the same car with the same test engine, you should see a difference. If you don't, the manifold doesn't work.

Look at TU's 3 inch SV, its tested on a stock car, now imagine if you changed this, changed that, then changed that again. Not the point. The dyno shows plain and simple his SV works.
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changingone thing like the intake may change air and fuel need's
ya... and thats the funny part how would one know exactly where the power increase came from when so many variables change?

Im just curious as to if the only modification is the intake, if it makes more power. Simple as that. Even if some tuning of fuel pressure is required to get the A/F optimal, as long as its close to what the baseline run is, is good enough data to say its a HP increase or not...
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Old 01-27-2006, 10:57 AM   #53
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With this intake, can still use my compressor and not lose my AC? I really want AC because it's for a daily driver. If not, do you have a plan or schematic on how I could still use AC?

Let us know!!

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It will go in stock location and not interfere with any accessories.
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Old 01-29-2006, 09:49 AM   #55
 
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Just be sure to get the 8v one pics up when it is ready. That is really a nice looking piece...

Nagging issue (or maynbe I just am not looking at it right). The pics show it having the TB come off the passenger side??? Ore the pics jusrt mirror images??
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Its gotta be a mirror image. The 2pc 8V is getting close...
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Old 02-10-2006, 01:58 PM   #57
 
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Who ever is doing the welding is super. Nice looking piece!

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Yes, I agree those tig welds look beautiful!!
Id like to see some 8v pics too, I could fund the cash for that, by selling off both of my 2 piece intakes!
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Another thing that comes to mind is unless the computer are calibrated for each manifold the back to back testing could be useless. The intakes may dramitically alter the characteristics of the motor and unless given a different fuel requirement will not show its true potential .
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Another thing that comes to mind is unless the computer are calibrated for each manifold the back to back testing could be useless. The intakes may dramitically alter the characteristics of the motor and unless given a different fuel requirement will not show its true potential .
That would lead me to believe that if you need to make fuel adjustments (ie. add fuel).... then it is working for the better.
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Old 02-21-2006, 03:33 AM   #60
 
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Wallace, How far is Salina from KC??? Also, Will you be at SDAC In July??? I look forward to meeting alot of you guys there, as this will be my first SDAC.

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