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How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

I bought a KD 3282 Tensioner Tool... and can find plenty of debate over if the tool is needed but no description of how to use it. Neither does the service manual describe a procedure.

Does one merely turn the tool on the tensioner until the front of the belt is 90 degrees tight when twisted by hand OR is there a particular angle, position, or method for use for the tool?
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

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I bought a KD 3282 Tensioner Tool... and can find plenty of debate over if the tool is needed but no description of how to use it. Neither does the service manual describe a procedure.

Does one merely turn the tool on the tensioner until the front of the belt is 90 degrees tight when twisted by hand OR is there a particular angle, position, or method for use for the tool?
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

make sure the block surface and the back of the tensioner are nice and clean

as per vid , line everything up and install the tensioner onto the engine , in place up against the belt

run it's bolt in until it swings around freely but it's more or less up against the block with the bolt almost tight

swing the tensioner into the belt loosely and install the tool so the weight is at about the 11:00 o'clock position

this leaves room for the weight of the tool to "fall" and provide what is supposed to be the correct tension

but you still have to tighten the bolt
sooo you need to also put your thumb on the tool at the weight and push down slightly to prevent the tensioner rotating as the bolt tightens
this would reduce your belt tension if it did

if it makes a lot of "chirping" when you start it the belt is to tight

to tight and to lose will also be indicated by where the belt rides on the cam pulley
ie , close to either the inside or outside edges vs more or less in center

I've NEVER used the twist the belt method I go by ear as that "chirping" sound just starts ever so slightly when the tension is "just right"

if to tight you get something that sounds like ERR ERR ERR ERR ERR ERR

most of the cars i've come across are err err err err err

just right is eh.....eh.....eh....eh

I hope this helps
once you hear things change as you make adjustments it will make more sense

I have always found though the weight of the tool alone is not usually enough

it needs the thumb push to prevent rotation when tightening the bolt , PLUS just a little more "thumb"

if you hear a TD running with the hood shut and there's a fairly loud running sound going
ERR ERR ERR ERR ERR ERR ERR

it's the timing belt and it's way to tight
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

From just looking, it seems like the weight could also be pushed against the block to prevent it from turning while the bolt is being tightened.

I'm not sure all 2.5 engines react to the tension with the same chirping as your engine?

I'm glad I bought the tool.

It seems like the primary objective "sweet spot" is proven by the gears not jumping a tooth on the belt.

It seems like the belt would loosen over time "stretch" even on the Gates brand kit that I bought from Rockauto.

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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

The FSM does show how to use the tool and properly tension the belt.
Although I use the tool to tension the belt and hold the tensioner in place while tightening I have never gotten tension correct by following the factory method.

Illustration #4 shows how to properly use the tool.

https://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4...n-84-95-a.html
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

In conjunction with the belt/timing and shown in the FSM

I added some UV dye to detect my oil leak which is either the oil pan or crank seal. When I get the pulley off the crank I'll be able to see better (I already changed the pan gasket, maybe still leaking). If it is the crank seal, are the tools indicated for the removal of the crank gear and seal needed/useful?
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

After hours of trying unsuccessfully to remove the crank sprocket without the proper tools my Son improvised a tool that worked easily and perfectly using the body of my OTC pitman arm puller and bolts.

https://www.tooltopia.com/otc-tools-7310a.aspx
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

How to pull timing sprocket with only bolts, nuts, and washers....

I would recommend trying my method first before using a jaw puller.
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

from the comment .. after hours of trying.. you can deduce that pulley is stuck the hell on there with what amounts to a force fit
it sure ain't a slip fit like a regular V8 harmonic balancer would be - why I'd like to know

so when you find it's difficult to remove .. or impossible it would seem .. that's what we call normal - your difficulty would not be unique so to say

it would have been nice if cryco hadda used a larger front seal and left the pulley on permanently

the moment you mentioned crank seal all our eyes rolled back slightly lol
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from the comment .. after hours of trying.. you can deduce that pulley is stuck the hell on there with what amounts to a force fit
it sure ain't a slip fit like a regular V8 harmonic balancer would be - why I'd like to know

so when you find it's difficult to remove .. or impossible it would seem .. that's what we call normal - your difficulty would not be unique so to say

it would have been nice if cryco hadda used a larger front seal and left the pulley on permanently

the moment you mentioned crank seal all our eyes rolled back slightly lol
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Not True, once we had a tool that fit properly it came right off without issue.
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

After the sprocket, what is the procedure to remove and install the seal without the seal tool?
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Re: How to actually use the Timing Tensioner Tool?

Chrysler wants you to remove the housing and remove/install the seal on the bench but not absolutely necessary.

Removing can be done with a screwdriver/small pry bar/seal remover, just be careful not to nick the housing.

You can install the seal using a socket that is the same size as the seal, just be sure it goes in straight and tap lightly until it is seated.

Two Tips...
1)Pack the back of the rubber seal with wheel bearing grease to prevent the garter spring from popping out during install.
2)Coat the outer portion of the seal with a non-hardening sealer such as Permatex #2 or Permatex Aviation Cement which will fill any minor imperfections in the housing to prevent leakage.

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