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06-26-2013 04:12 PM
jgens12v
Re: need more power

throw on a custom intake and exhaust im not saying straight pipe the thing, but an aftermarket with a muffler will allow better flow slightly increasing hp itself. then I would use an edge w/ attitude cs so you can boost your power plus it comes with the heads up display to view like egt's. you will get more than 75hp with out hurting anything the truck will be able to handle it and the loads better.

don't put in injectors that's just plain stupid for what you need. you also don't need to plug your waste gate these minor mods will give you what you need
12-02-2012 01:25 AM
CRAZYMATT
Re: need more power

I do know alot of the med duty chassis's are different then pickups. Some tuners will/wont work correctly.
Blue Chip Diesel TS performance does alot of stuff too.

A boost elbow will help - Adjustable Boost Elbow ---Dodge Cummins Turbo hx35 hx40


Might try a set of 275hp rv injectors. Depends on what hp rating is on the timing case.
10-29-2012 03:32 PM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

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Originally Posted by 94GTC View Post
So your saying the Smarty for the 2000 Dodge won't work? It is possible/ probable that the controls for it really are not from Dodge I suppose. I am guessing that injectors goes beyond the scope af what his boss will allow him to do with the truck.
Wouldn't work because it reprograms the the dodge pcm,. The power puck, and van aken could work because its on the cummins side of the harness. Although you wont see a great gain in power until injectors are added along with them.
10-29-2012 03:25 PM
94GTC
Re: need more power

So your saying the Smarty for the 2000 Dodge won't work? It is possible/ probable that the controls for it really are not from Dodge I suppose. I am guessing that injectors goes beyond the scope af what his boss will allow him to do with the truck.
10-28-2012 07:55 AM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

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Originally Posted by The Pope View Post
well close, a local friend here that works on my truck with me has worked at a Diesel tuner shop for about 10 years now. They build them and have there own dyno tuning them. So I haven't owned them, I just watch and pay close attention as they put down nice numbers. Every truck though is different, but the Cummins is always first choice.

These guys I've worked with don't use off the shelf programs, they are all custom. But when your talking a cheap low stage boost there isn't a huge difference. The favorite that they use is the Edge.

DIESEL - Dodge Juice w / Attitude CS ( 1998.5 - 2000 ) Cummins 5.9L <b><font color="#0033ff" size="4">- FREE - Next Day Air !
Wasnt aware that you could "CUSTOM TUNE" a vp44 truck, as far as you can go is with a Quadzilla Adrenaline and you can change timing and fuel stretch and a few other things...... and as far as tuning a common rail well thats funny to because the only thing you can custom tune them with is EFI live,and that is limited to a 06-07 5.9 and 07-09 6.7. And that has only been out a little longer than a year.

The tuner you listed won't work with the truck he has, the adrenaline prob won't either, so Your stuck with a timing box (adds injection timeing and can bus fueling) which are van aken, and power puck. around a 60hp gain.

With that said the only easy way to get reasonable hp gains is with injectors.

A nice set of 7x.010 injectors would be perfect those are rated at around 150hp just make sure you get a quality set and stay away from edge jammers and a few others that are considered a dirty smokey high egt injector,....
10-27-2012 09:25 PM
The Pope
Re: need more power

well close, a local friend here that works on my truck with me has worked at a Diesel tuner shop for about 10 years now. They build them and have there own dyno tuning them. So I haven't owned them, I just watch and pay close attention as they put down nice numbers. Every truck though is different, but the Cummins is always first choice.

These guys I've worked with don't use off the shelf programs, they are all custom. But when your talking a cheap low stage boost there isn't a huge difference. The favorite that they use is the Edge.

DIESEL - Dodge Juice w / Attitude CS ( 1998.5 - 2000 ) Cummins 5.9L <b><font color="#0033ff" size="4">- FREE - Next Day Air !
10-27-2012 01:48 PM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

I speak from experience, and not hear say from a friends brothers uncles cousins next door neighbor
10-27-2012 01:47 PM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

What kind of "chip" i have heard Pringles and doritos work well lol, but really. all the "chips" tuners that i mentioned goes on the cummins side of the harness, all the mechanical parts are the same....
10-27-2012 01:08 PM
The Pope
Re: need more power

well, with your pickup play toy it's different. being a big work truck I don't think he could run down to the local shop and have it built like a pickup. Most likely air cleaner mods and a chip swap is about as far as he may be able to get away
10-27-2012 10:25 AM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

and did i mention banks and bully dog sucks lol sorry i had too.....
10-27-2012 10:24 AM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

Also you do have to get a boost fooler as the factory ecm will pull fuel out at around 25psi, you will also need a boost elbow(grainger valve) to increase boost.... just remember more boost don't always mean more power you have to have the fuel to go with the extra air other wise your losing power.....
10-27-2012 10:21 AM
Sleepycummins
Re: need more power

Alright hopefully i didn't get to this post too late.... stay the frack away from anything banks makes as well as bully dog on this particular truck........

If your looking for a jump in power i would look into a set of injectors and a timing box such as a van aken, superchips, diablo power puck etc... you could safely run all the way up to a 150hp injector but i would recommend a 100hp injector from ddp....

With the mods i jsut stated you looking at about a 300ftlb of tq increase at about 1500 bucks...

You could also get a wire tap box such as an edge comp, or quadzilla adrenaline and achieve the same results....

Also dont forget you gauges without them you risk burning up the engine even with slightest increase in power... you will want egt and fuel pressure at a minimum, never go over 1200* for any period of time and never let the fuel pressure drop below 15psi....
06-22-2012 11:08 PM
The Pope
Re: need more power

I don't think you need the manual boost controller, you get more boost from more fuel. If you want to try one though get a grainger valve from FWDperformance and stick it in that line. Ball towards the turbo and spring towards the WG can.

Look into a controller, the banks is sweet but more expensive.
06-22-2012 08:14 PM
94GTC
Re: need more power

I have a Smarty in my 03 and love it. It is rated at up to 90 h.p. on the 2000.
06-22-2012 08:17 AM
spudwiser67
Re: need more power

thanx pope I have been lookin around but there are a lot of programers out there and ofcorse they all say there the best, ya right.

a friend of mine has told me he tryed the banks and the bully dog, liked the banks better.

ya hp is not the real goal here I just want to pull a hill with out having to put this thing in 4th gear (its a 6 speed) I think 150 ft/lb would be great.

any thoughts on disconecting the wastgate supply line for more boost. as I under stand things a diesel will only spool a turbo so far unless you start dumping more fuel.

oh and I dont know if this is a little different because it is in a ford but the wastgate line come right off the compressor housing and straight to the wastgate no computer control.

any help would be great I'm used to working on my old mecedes not this newer cummins.
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