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signsoflife22 04-04-2013 10:29 AM

1987 GLHS#0896 Project log
 
1987 GLHS#0896 Project log

OK; I've been on TD for a few years or so and, I've talked and discussed, and rambled on about the GLHS I own and how I intend to make it an incredible vehicle.

I'm starting this log today because I'm beginning the
"resto-boostaholic-adgenda".
I've been planning, educating myself more thoroughly, making contacts here and more planning for three years now.

The intentions are pretty detailed at this point and here's the "vision":
A GLHS rivaled by no other!
11 second 1/4 mile with the license plate on the back.
Total vehicle weight of 2200lbs(or less), with me in the driver's seat(170lbs).

I've been in contact with several TDers here and this vision is VERY-VERY achievable.

I bought the vehicle from Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts (Mike was selling it for a guy from Texas), and it was a beauty! 67930 original miles! Here's what it looked like the day I brought it home:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8...900535d7d6.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8...2e99348429.jpg

The vehicle had already had a few mods done by Mike at Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts. An "Enforcer I" turbo, "Enforcer I" cylinder head with +1mm valves, +20% injectors, MP stage 2 module and a 3" complete exhaust with "blow through" cat.
After a few modifications to the factory air intake system(Factory air box removal etc) and an upgraded coil and wires, she was pretty "pissed"(exactly the emotion I like my cars to have(lol). But low and behold, I blew the a525.
I was already aware of the "weakest link" in the GLHS's character make-up, having had a GLHS years ago that did the same thing. So, I knew it was just a matter of time until the 525 pooped the bed on me(lol).

At this point, the vehicle is on blocks in my driveway and has been there for a while now. Here's a pic:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...353b90dba4.jpg
(even in this condition, you can see how "clean" this vehicle is)

I'm starting the project with the brakes and suspension in mind first so I can get the vehicle into a "roller" in case I need to ship it anywhere for something(or just to move it around with ease).

I have FINALLY got my hands on the parts required to do the SLH3 four wheel disc brake modification(well, they're in the mail anyway).
I had been in touch with THREE different people here at TD that had said they had the parts but, when it came time for me to purchase them, these people all kind of "disappeared"(lol).
Oh well, Mike at Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts to the rescue! Mike had what I needed and shipped the parts today!

As I go through the steps of the build, everything will be documented here.
As I said before, the SLH3 upgrade and suspension system mods will be first.
These two systems will be addressed kind of simultaneously.

I've been in touch with Koni and, their prices are a bit "steep" but, suspension upgrades have been quite difficult to find. The Konis seem to be the very best system for the "L" body cars.
Here's a pic I found from a guy who had his done:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8...5407bd667d.jpg
It cost him right around $600.00 for this but, the result speaks for itself! Wouldn't you agree?
I've been in touch with Koni and, YES, they are still rebuilding these today. So, if you want yours done, simply go to Koni: Koni: us-na-redirect

For today, I'll end it there. By the weekend(Hopefully), I'll be removing the rear suspension, cleaning and modifying it and, reinstalling with the SLH3 brakes.

I'll post any info as I go along.
Thanks for looking and have a wonderful day!!!:hello2:

Ythorse 04-07-2013 09:00 AM

re: 1987 GLHS#0896 Project log
 
didn't know Koni was doing that. Good to know , btw the car looked awesome ,what happened ? not that it doesn't look re-buildable .

METZ 04-07-2013 10:30 AM

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Subscribed! What will you do to get her down to 2200 Lbs?

signsoflife22 04-07-2013 11:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ythorse (Post 2656361)
didn't know Koni was doing that. Good to know , btw the car looked awesome ,what happened ? not that it doesn't look re-buildable .

I agree, It DID "look" awesome but, It just didn't kick enough A**(lol)
When I picked this car up from Forward Motion in 2009, I drove it home from Wilmington, DE(about 150 miles), and it was fast but, not "scary" fast.
My friend and I got into a bit of a challenge with a 2008 BMW MINI turbo on the way home and that guy was pretty sorry he revved his engine next to me!

But the GLHS just wasn't what my previous GLHS(#0309) was. I guess after driving with 30psi of boost, the factory levels just don't do it for me anymore.

When this vehicle is completed, It will still have the fantastic looks of the GLHS. The changes I'll be making to the appearance will be difficult but, not necessarily BIG changes.
For example, I'm mounting a front mount Intercooler that will require the center "posts" of the bumper support to be removed
(Here's a pic I crudely altered):
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8...b31cc627fc.jpg
Like I said, "crudely altered"(lol) But that's close to the idea.

The other mods I'll be making which will alter the appearance slightly would be the vents I'll be installing in the front fenders(kind of where European Turn Signals go), to vent in air through plumbing which will cool the brakes up front and also blow fresh air directly to the rear of the engine(ie: Turbo, exhaust mani, etc.).
This idea is a pretty ingenious one(if I do say so myself). The design I have drawn up includes a "Y" pipe that splits the incoming air at the inner fender well(kinda), directing half to the front brakes and the other half to the exhaust side of the engine bay.

BUT AAANNYYYWAY.....
Right now, I'm on the Brakes and Suspension phase of the build(it's SO easy to get distracted with other phases of the project(lol).

I removed the rear drum brake system completely and next, I'll be removing the entire rear suspension system(The weather here in North East PA has been "nice" but the wind is blowing at a steady 30mph!). While removed, I'll clean everything and then I'm taking the rear "I" beam(which is actually a "U") to my friend's welding shop to be altered.
An old friend of mine who used to own the local Dodge dealership has ALL KINDS of literature that I've never seen concerning the handling characteristics of our TDs.
I found an old article written by a man named E.F. Nowak that suggests welding a flat steel plate across the length of the "U" beam to kind of "box it", which will make the rear suspension a lot stiffer.
I did this with my last GLHS and the difference was incredible. And best of all, the whole mod was FREE!!! I used scrap steel and a friend welded it in for me. I cleaned up the rough edges with a grinder, reinstalled the factory rear sway bar and off I went!

It's difficult for me to not "ramble on" about this vehicle.
But stay tuned and, there will be a lot more rambling soon(lol)

The POPE and I were talking about the lack of a manual trans building thread and, between the two of us, we may get one started.
I have a couple of 555s here(As you know Ythorse) and, I'll be building one of them for the GLHS.
I intend to take many-many pics throughout the entire rebuild as it will be a "learn as I go" endeavor using the FSM(Thanks to ILIKESHELBYS for educating me about the meaning of "FSM" Factory Shop Manual :bang head (lol).

signsoflife22 04-07-2013 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by METZ (Post 2656457)
Subscribed! What will you do to get her down to 2200 Lbs?

Well METZ, I basically take the entire car apart piece by pice(not all at once but, as I go along) and, everything that's not ABSOLUTELY necessary gets deleted!
As I've said many times, I used to own GLHS#0309 and, it's weight was 2160lbs with me IN IT!!!(I was only 150 then(lol).
So, I see NO problems getting this vehicle to right around that same weight.

When I was "lightening" the last GLHS, I found most of the unnecessary weight to be in the interior.
The factory Shelby buckets are VERY heavy!
And even that rear seat is a "brick" that'll probably go.

As I move along throughout the build, I'll include the "weight loss" techniques I employ.

Thanks for subscribing bro!:D

HDRMOPAR 04-07-2013 04:21 PM

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Let's get it up an running then up grade never let it set out side in less running

signsoflife22 04-07-2013 07:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDRMOPAR (Post 2656905)
Let's get it up an running then up grade never let it set out side in less running

Yeah, I feel the same way but, as for now, it's off the ground and covered top and bottom.
Once I get the brakes and suspension done, I may move into a garage for the remainder of the build.

signsoflife22 04-08-2013 01:14 PM

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Well, I got the rear suspension out from under her yesterday.
AND... I made a VERY ALARMING discovery!!!

Here's a pic:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8119/8...21f4a178a7.jpg
Yep, you guessed it!(maybe)...:eek:
NO, I didn't snap that bolt. I didn't even need to remove this particular bolt to remove the suspension.
It's the bolt that attaches the rear beam to the mounting bracket.
And YES, it's head is sheared right off!
I have no clue when this happened but, I DO know that if that particular bolt ever decided to walk its way out of there while I was driving...
YOW, it scares me just to think of the possibilities.

Other than that, the entire system is in pretty darn good condition. And the undercarriage of the vehicle is pristine.
Here's a few more pics I snapped while under there:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8519/8...bc7a006210.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8...032c559e5d.jpg

It'll be MUCH easier to remove the fuel tank this way!!(lol)
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8...d291aa32a5.jpg

And here's the suspension system(The beam anyway), on my front porch:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8240/8...aedf765998.jpg
(Yes; That's my short block on the stand and my cylinder head in the drain pan. I've got things all over the place. I started this project when I wasn't very "focused"(lol)

The SLH3 parts are on their way!
And after I completely disassemble the rear "I" beam, I'll take it to be modified(Welded to a "box" rather than the "U" it is now)

And, I'll be removing the fuel tank to perform a sending unit mod I found at Turbo Mopar.
Here's a link to that(this link takes you directly to page 3 of the thread but, the whole thing is pretty good stuff):
L body fuel system upgrade - Page 3
Thanks, Skibbe !

That's all I've got for now and, it may not seem like much but, I intend to include every little thing I do.

Thanks again for checking back!:D

HDRMOPAR 04-08-2013 03:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by signsoflife22 (Post 2652513)
1987 GLHS#0896 Project log

OK; I've been on TD for a few years or so and, I've talked and discussed, and rambled on about the GLHS I own and how I intend to make it an incredible vehicle.

I'm starting this log today because I'm beginning the
"resto-boostaholic-adgenda".
I've been planning, educating myself more thoroughly, making contacts here and more planning for three years now.

The intentions are pretty detailed at this point and here's the "vision":
A GLHS rivaled by no other!
11 second 1/4 mile with the license plate on the back.
Total vehicle weight of 2200lbs(or less), with me in the driver's seat(170lbs).

I've been in contact with several TDers here and this vision is VERY-VERY achievable.

I bought the vehicle from Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts (Mike was selling it for a guy from Texas), and it was a beauty! 67930 original miles! Here's what it looked like the day I brought it home:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8510/8...900535d7d6.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8...2e99348429.jpg

The vehicle had already had a few mods done by Mike at Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts. An "Enforcer I" turbo, "Enforcer I" cylinder head with +1mm valves, +20% injectors, MP stage 2 module and a 3" complete exhaust with "blow through" cat.
After a few modifications to the factory air intake system(Factory air box removal etc) and an upgraded coil and wires, she was pretty "pissed"(exactly the emotion I like my cars to have(lol). But low and behold, I blew the a525.
I was already aware of the "weakest link" in the GLHS's character make-up, having had a GLHS years ago that did the same thing. So, I knew it was just a matter of time until the 525 pooped the bed on me(lol).

At this point, the vehicle is on blocks in my driveway and has been there for a while now. Here's a pic:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8101/8...353b90dba4.jpg
(even in this condition, you can see how "clean" this vehicle is)

I'm starting the project with the brakes and suspension in mind first so I can get the vehicle into a "roller" in case I need to ship it anywhere for something(or just to move it around with ease).

I have FINALLY got my hands on the parts required to do the SLH3 four wheel disc brake modification(well, they're in the mail anyway).
I had been in touch with THREE different people here at TD that had said they had the parts but, when it came time for me to purchase them, these people all kind of "disappeared"(lol).
Oh well, Mike at Forward Motion Inc - Specializing in FWD Dodge Performance Parts to the rescue! Mike had what I needed and shipped the parts today!

As I go through the steps of the build, everything will be documented here.
As I said before, the SLH3 upgrade and suspension system mods will be first.
These two systems will be addressed kind of simultaneously.

I've been in touch with Koni and, their prices are a bit "steep" but, suspension upgrades have been quite difficult to find. The Konis seem to be the very best system for the "L" body cars.
Here's a pic I found from a guy who had his done:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8242/8...5407bd667d.jpg
It cost him right around $600.00 for this but, the result speaks for itself! Wouldn't you agree?
I've been in touch with Koni and, YES, they are still rebuilding these today. So, if you want yours done, simply go to Koni: Koni: us-na-redirect

For today, I'll end it there. By the weekend(Hopefully), I'll be removing the rear suspension, cleaning and modifying it and, reinstalling with the SLH3 brakes.

I'll post any info as I go along.
Thanks for looking and have a wonderful day!!!:hello2:

Nice PIcs I'm also sending Knoi stuts off.They quoted rebuild 150.00 ea plus parts.Hoping mine look just as nice also eibach 1 inch lowering springs what springs you using.

HDRMOPAR 04-08-2013 03:44 PM

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How long did it take to get your koni rebuilds back

signsoflife22 04-08-2013 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDRMOPAR (Post 2658721)
How long did it take to get your koni rebuilds back

I guess I'll answer both of your questions here:
The Konis pictured aren't mine. They are a set someone else had done and sent me the pic to let me know what I'd get back if I were to send mine to Koni.

As far as springs...I still haven't decided(not that there's a bunch of options that I know of).
Either the MP 1" lowering springs or some other company.
Whichever way I go, I'm sure they'll be at least 1" lowering springs.
That 1" decision will depend on what wheels and tires I'll choose.
Plus, I'll have to talk to Koni to see if the factory rebuilds can be built to specs for anything lower.

That reminds me: When you contact Koni, they allow you to choose the damper rate and several other specs to your own liking.
They're pretty user friendly. They'll rebuild your Konis however you like!


Best wishes to you my friend! :D

HDRMOPAR 04-08-2013 10:22 PM

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i just having them back to stock koni spec. ill sell them in this fall an go coil overs is the plan

signsoflife22 04-13-2013 04:32 PM

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So, I bought the white gauge inlays(which are AWESOME!!!), and then I reassembled the cluster.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8389/8...8278f4fb9a.jpg

Well, when I ran 12 VDC to it through a power supply, I noticed that the inlays had dimmed the light(Obviously!).
So, I got to thinking: What if I figured out a way to install L.E.D. lights to shine ONTO the gauges?
Well, I figured out a way.
What I'm doing is installing an additional piece of plastic to mount a strip of L.E.D.s to, which will have them facing the gauges.
Here's the strip type L.E.D.s I'll be installing:
Unlit:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8381/8...ec401fb134.jpg
Lit:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/8...312c78fa6d.jpg
(this pic is a bit deceiving; I'm only installing one of these strips)

Here's a few pics of the cluster bezel as I moved along through this procedure:
Here, I glued in a piece of plastic I had shaped roughly to the inner walls of the cluster, and applied the first coat of "Plastic-weld":
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8258/8...17d93d000b.jpg

Then I sanded to remove the high spots:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/8...91be892cee.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8395/8...b0a53bda72.jpg

Corrected any spots where there were obvious errors:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8526/8...c0d5313323.jpg

And now that it's sanded, just the finishing touches to make it smooth and I'll be set to paint it.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8121/8...b6775f0e55.jpg

I used a rounded "canister" type sanding bit to shape the plastic after it was welded to the cluster bezel:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8404/8...cd9f63ee17.jpg
There's probably a million ways to do this but, I like the right angle drill's control of speed the best.

All that's left is to install the L.E.D. strip.
Wiring it directly to the cluster lights "+" and "-" posts.

The next post here will be the pic of the finished product...

RGL10 04-13-2013 05:42 PM

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Nice idea! I didnt think my dash was bright enough either so I painted the back silver to reflect more light. Maybe its our eyesight getting bad from old age. LOL You have a nice project going, keep up the good work!

signsoflife22 04-13-2013 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RGL10 (Post 2669857)
Nice idea! I didnt think my dash was bright enough either so I painted the back silver to reflect more light. Maybe its our eyesight getting bad from old age. LOL You have a nice project going, keep up the good work!

Thanks for checking it out and thanks for the compliments.

I intend to illustrate every little thing I do to it.

I have several aspects of the build "in motion" but I try to stay focused on each one individually.
This is sometime difficult due to parts availability, etc. So, the "little things" I kind of treat as "in betweeners"(lol)

I'll be posting the finished cluster tomorrow.
I hope it turns out well. I've kind of seen how it'll look and the L.E.D.s are AMAZING!!!

Once again, thank you.
Best wishes to you my friend.:D


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