[TurboDoctah]

i have been batteling with getting my 87 shelby z running right for ever now. the whole motors brand new. the ignition is new, the fuel system is new.. the ecu is new.. the car wont rev past 5500.. and even then it makes no power be it 3psi or 15psi no diffrence... the stage 5 ecu i have for it to run the +40's needs a 3bar map.. i have one and the harness for one. now is it just a plug in and go thing? or do i need to swap some wires around to get it to work. when i just plug the 3bar in it goes pig rich. what gives?? im at the shop right now trying to figure it out.

 

[crazymadbastard]

check the voltage coming out of the map- you may have to switch some pins around. On a 3 bar with the car off and the hose off the map it should read 1.61ish.

 

[crazymadbastard]

oh and check for codes. I bet you have a map code going on.

 

[TurboDoctah]

check the voltage coming out of the map- you may have to switch some pins around. On a 3 bar with the car off and the hose off the map it should read 1.61ish.

2.270 key on engine off. and 5.00

 

[crazymadbastard]

what is the part number on that map?

 

[TurboDoctah]

2.270 key on engine off. and 5.00

4.64v with the 3bar amd 2.270 with the stocker... my bad.

 

[TurboDoctah]

what is the part number on that map?

the 3bar is 103 3237

 

[crazymadbastard]

http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f21/140689-voltage-tables.html#post1182204

 

[crazymadbastard]

you may have to switch pins a and b at the sensor. Cross your fingers...

 

[TurboDoctah]

you may have to switch pins a and b at the sensor. Cross your fingers...

i switched the pins.. the car ran but surged and i couldnt rev it.

 

[crazymadbastard]

sounds like a bad map, but with the 2bar it runs ok though?

If so ,you have other issues contact the cal maker.

 

[crazymadbastard]

oh and what is the signal voltage with the pins switched? backprobe both pins a and b separately with the map ground.

 

[TurboDoctah]

oh and what is the signal voltage with the pins switched?

when the car is running?

 

[crazymadbastard]

no just the key on and hose off. and what about the codes? do you have the baro solenoid hooked up?

 

[TurboDoctah]

no just the key on and hose off. and what about the codes? do you have the baro solenoid hooked up?

the volts i posted here are what its reading... no i did not unhook the bap.. should i?? is that the sensor right next to the map?

 

[crazymadbastard]

yeah that is the baro, my guess is that the map is not good, why is it reading so high? the computer is seeing full boost when it really isn't- are you getting lots of smoke?
If you follow the link I gave you it should read .5 volts at 20hg of idle and 1.60ish at atmosphere- hose off. I can only guess the map is no good since the voltage it is receiving is right. Try a known good map- was the one you bought known good from a good seller?

 

[TurboDoctah]

theres no check valve between the map and bap.. should there be one?

 

[crazymadbastard]

no check valve, the barometric solenoid vents the map to the atmosphere to check on the ambient pressure. I still cannot think of a reason the map is sending high readings, only thing I can conlude is a bad map.

 

[TurboDoctah]

no check valve, the barometric solenoid vents the map to the atmosphere to check on the ambient pressure. I still cannot think of a reason the map is sending high readings, only thing I can conlude is a bad map.

im about to throw the car in the crusher.. everythings new on it.. i just got the car for 2500 just spent over a grand in diag and a new head installed.. im gonna be a poor man for atleast 8 weeks i throw every cent i make into paying off the bill... its almost not worth it.

 

[crazymadbastard]

im about to throw the car in the crusher.. everythings new on it.. i just got the car for 2500 just spent over a grand in diag and a new head installed.. im gonna be a poor man for atleast 8 weeks i throw every cent i make into paying off the bill... its almost not worth it.

what does that have to do with the map? Comon man, BREATHE!!! it's not you, its the stupid map. Don't take it personally.
It is a project, kinda like a kid, jus cause it's acting up doesn't mean you put it up for adoption.

My car goes out on long vacations when something needs upgrading or breaks.