EBay TB03 cartridge?

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Tonatom

Discussion Starter · 19 d ago

Anyone ever use one of these replacement cartridges?

Bout $400 cdn or so

Haven't checked with cherry turbos yet what he wants for a rebuild.

If these are China I'd rather not and just go with the reputation of a good rebuilder.

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4 L-bodies

· #2 · 19 d ago

These are Chinese. Pretty much all new centersections (journal housings) will all be aftermarket at this point. Most of the wet bearing housings will not be 3/8" NPT either. Simple adapter to AN fitting solves that issue. Turbo international offers decent quality new CHRA's.

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Tonatom

Discussion Starter · #3 · 19 d ago

Looks like that's for the T1 turbo not the T2. I don't think mine has chewed into the housing but it's got more than the 0.008" shaft play then the gent at cherry told me is acceptable.

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· #4 · 18 d ago

Tonatom said:
Looks like that's for the T1 turbo not the T2. I don't think mine has chewed into the housing but it's got more than the 0.008" shaft play then the gent at cherry told me is acceptable.

Not trying to talk you into this import turbo, but where are you getting your info from telling you it won't work?

The CHRA are the same between T1 and TII. What makes you think that it is a T1 only? About the only difference it could be is whether it has a 4 piece carbon seal or a dynamic seal. 4 piece carbon seal will work for T1 or T2, while the dynamic seal will only work for blow through TII applications. Centersection housing is the same, compressor wheel is the same, turbine shaft is the same. bearings are the same, only the backing plate is changed depending on dynamic or 4 piece carbon seal.

As far as bearings go, they do make oversize ID and OD bearings should your shaft or housing be slightly worn. Could be just the bearings that are worn too. That is why they make them out of bronze or aluminum, so they're sacrificial.
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Tonatom

Discussion Starter · #5 · 18 d ago

4 L-bodies said:
Not trying to talk you into this import turbo, but where are you getting your info from telling you it won't work?

The CHRA are the same between T1 and TII. What makes you think that it is a T1 only? About the only difference it could be is whether it has a 4 piece carbon seal or a dynamic seal. 4 piece carbon seal will work for T1 or T2, while the dynamic seal will only work for blow through TII applications. Centersection housing is the same, compressor wheel is the same, turbine shaft is the same. bearings are the same, only the backing plate is changed depending on dynamic or 4 piece carbon seal.

As far as bearings go, they do make oversize ID and OD bearings should your shaft or housing be slightly worn. Could be just the bearings that are worn too. That is why they make them out of bronze or aluminum, so they're sacrificial.
Todd

I was just assuming. One site stated the garret used in T2 177 hp engines were TB0332 and T1s 140hp was TB0335. That's all I was going off.

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Glhs60

· #6 · 18 d ago

Stick with whatever Todd says.

He is the most experienced T-D er on the planet.

Plus, he's a gentleman with only one minor flaw!

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Randy

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4 L-bodies

· #7 · 18 d ago

Tonatom said:
I was just assuming. One site stated the garret used in T2 177 hp engines were TB0332 and T1s 140hp was TB0335. That's all I was going off.

The Garrett #'s you're providing is for the complete turbo with housings. So of course the T1's with the bolt on compressor inlet will be a different part # than the T2 turbos that have the slip on compressor cover. They use the same CHRA. If your curious go on Turbo International's website it will have a listing for all the different Chrysler applications by Garrett part #. It even shows all the internal specs such as housing A/R, turbine size, compressor wheel size and housing AR, compressor seal, CHRA assembly, etc. They even have Garrett part #'s for the MP plus turbos which were only offered through catalog (never on production vehicles). Pretty handy website actually.
Attachments below are a CHRA that PT turbos in SoCal recently VSA balanced for me. I rebuilt and assembled the CHRA then sent it out for compressor housing machining and VSA balancing. They machined the housing for a slightly larger T3 60 trim compressor wheel. James does a good job, competitively priced, with very quick turnaround. They also provided the rebuild kit and the NIB compressor upgraded wheel. They will do as little or as much as you need them to do. Recommend these guys if you're looking for a place to rebuild your turbo.

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· #8 · 18 d ago

Glhs60 said:
Stick with whatever Todd says.

He is the most experienced T-D er on the planet.

Plus, he's a gentleman with only one minor flaw!

Thanks
Randy

Haha thanks Randy, I've made a conscious effort to try not to refer to our engines as motors, because I know that bothers you and others. Wonder how those gearheads in Windsor feel about that border "Motor City" located right next to them?

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Glhs60

· #9 · 17 d ago

Motor City builds entire motor vehicles, not just Engines.

Ford Motor Company calls Engines, Engines, never motors!!

Same with GM, Chrysler, BMW, M-B etc.

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Randy

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Shadow

· #10 · 17 d ago

Glhs60 said:
Motor City builds entire motor vehicles, not just Engines.

Ford Motor Company calls Engines, Engines, never motors!!

Same with GM, Chrysler, BMW, M-B etc.

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Randy

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This does Beg the question, How can you call something a Motor vehicle If it Doesn't have a Motor! lol

Should be referred to as an Engine vehicle!!!!! : )

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Glhs60

· #11 · 17 d ago

Motoring means to travel in a self propelled carriage.

Think horseless carriage or the old Esso slogan, Happy Motoring.

A motor vehicle is a self propelled vehicle whatever the power source.

Early motor vehicles were steam, electric or Internal Combustion Engines.

The ICE won out for over a century but hybrid and electrics are catching on.

The vast majority of vehicles have several motors but only one Engine.

(starter motor, heater motor, wiper motor, pw motor, fan motor etc, etc)

This is why there is no logical reason to also call your Engine a motor!!

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Randy

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motomick76

· #12 · 16 d ago

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Tonatom

Discussion Starter · #13 · 16 d ago

Nuff said:

I used to be in the not a motor it's an engine camp. Until I started working in heavy induatry.

A motor is a prime mover. Doesn't matter what its powered by.

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Glhs60

· #14 · 16 d ago

Motor Car company's and Engine manufacturing company's always call
Engines --- ENGINES !!

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Randy

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