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well the intake exhaust gasket has really took a shit. i dont really wanna do this. this car is a daily driver and its just gone all to shit the past couple days. the o2 sensor is out and i cant get it off. the intake exhaust gasket leaks really badly and sounds like shit. ugh i dont really wanna have to pull the whole head off and get new headbolts and new head gasket and then put it all back together and retorque everything. this car is a big PITA and i dunno bout it anymore. im just gonna let a shop do it all for me cause im really sick if doing it. can they reuse the old head gasket and bolts or should i just go ahead and buy new ones? this is a lot of money down the hole. $55 for the o2 sensor. another $20 for the intake/exhaust gasket. $45 for the head gasket. and $12 a piece for headbolts. all this and the car is supposed to be a daily driver. it was really reliable for the first 2 months i had it. i need a miracle.
 

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Honestly, you've listed around $120 in parts, big deal. None of the gaskets are reuseable and the shop will supply them, I don't let my customers bring there own parts, cuts into my profit margin.
Anyway dude, keep your chin up, when you get it fixed, you'll be glad you did. Cars break down, anything you buy can and will break down, shit happens!
 

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well the intake exhaust gasket has really took a shit. i dont really wanna do this. this car is a daily driver and its just gone all to shit the past couple days. the o2 sensor is out and i cant get it off. the intake exhaust gasket leaks really badly and sounds like shit. ugh i dont really wanna have to pull the whole head off and get new headbolts and new head gasket and then put it all back together and retorque everything. this car is a big PITA and i dunno bout it anymore. im just gonna let a shop do it all for me cause im really sick if doing it. can they reuse the old head gasket and bolts or should i just go ahead and buy new ones? this is a lot of money down the hole. $55 for the o2 sensor. another $20 for the intake/exhaust gasket. $45 for the head gasket. and $12 a piece for headbolts. all this and the car is supposed to be a daily driver. it was really reliable for the first 2 months i had it. i need a miracle.
take in your own parts if possible-- MP bolts and Headgasket from any of the TD vendors, about $40-50 shipped. Otherwise, you have no idea what you are getting (if even replaced).

Give it another whirl though, youve done it once before it only gets easier the second time. its also possible the parts are warped and not sealing well, or the exhaust manifold has a crack somewhere you cant easily see.
 

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Buddy, I know what you are going through.

It seemed my Laser through a fit every few months. Try paying $300 to have the timing fixed! (dead of winter and no knowledge...sucks)

Get another car to drive daily, work on the other. My reliable car is a 93 Corsica, she's a work horse. Made it to Maine and back from Philly.
 

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well its not really the money bothering me. its just the fact its one thing after another. i really wanted this car a lot. i missed my other one and wanted another so bad. i sold one car to buy this one. i almost had to sell my glh. although i wish it didnt have so little miles on it or i would have brought it home instead of the csxt. that little car never had the problems this thing does. but i cant just dump this thing till i go back to school and drive the glht. i just want it to run and run right and be reliable. i mean the motor still only has 20K miles on it.
 

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Headbolts are only $30 a set dude, and head Gasket is like $17...cheap insurance if you ask me.
 

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where do you find them $30 a set? and i only use the mp hg's ive had bad experiences with fel pro. it was $45 at local dealer but head boots were $7 a piece or 17 cant remember right off. by the way i use the 005 head gasket right?

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Headbolts are only $30 a set dude, and head Gasket is like $17...cheap insurance if you ask me.
 

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I'm looking at a receipt from Tysinger Dodge, Hampton Va from Friday, MP head gasket P4452006 (cross drilled engines) List price $23.40, my cost $18.75. Don't know what the 005 gasket runs. I use ARP studs in mine, one time purchase.
 

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I paid $17 Canadian for an MP headgasket, and $32 for a set of MP headbolts....at the dealer.
 

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so i absolutely have to pull the head to change the gasket? id really rather not as i work the next 11 days in a row after tommorrow and really need this car going fast. is there no way to avoid pulling the head?
 

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You will save time and frustration by pulling the head. When buying an old turbo dodge, it's best to go through everything and replace everything at once, rather than replace one part at a time. It's a 20 year old car, what do you expect.
 

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From the first post, it seems like all the problem is, is an exhaust leak, you could just deal with it for the next week or so until you have a full day to tear it apart again..
 

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well the motor itself is in great shape its not old. was rebuilt and has probably 20K miles on it since rebuilding. has no blow bye and shows 140psi or better in all 4 cylinders. problem is the exhaust leak is at the head where the gasket is. i was just saying i would like to get away with not pulling the head just cause the fact the motor and gasket are still fresh. but looks like ill have to anyways. the main problems are the fact that the oxygen sensor is bad and since i could get it off with a wrench i went and got pissed and clipped the wires and tried with a socket to no avail. i tried torching it and tried running the car a bit to get it warm and it still wont move. i just dont have the time to pull the head and cant drive it cause it runs like shit with no o2 feedback.

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From the first post, it seems like all the problem is, is an exhaust leak, you could just deal with it for the next week or so until you have a full day to tear it apart again..
 

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Those 02's can be a pain. I too clipped the wires. I grabbed a perfect fitting socket first. Once I had the right sized socket. I went ahead and heated up the area around the 02 sensor slapped the socket on and off it went. I've done 3 or 4 and haven't failed yet. If you get the 02 sensor working you should be able to drive the car around with the exhaust leak.
 

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stupid ****** o2 sensor is permanently frozen in the swingvalve. how hard is the swingvalve to get off and replace? i got a spare one. ill put the 02 sensor in it and bolt it on. or should i wait and do it when i pull the head to do the intake exhaust gasket?
 

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stupid ****** o2 sensor is permanently frozen in the swingvalve. how hard is the swingvalve to get off and replace? i got a spare one. ill put the 02 sensor in it and bolt it on. or should i wait and do it when i pull the head to do the intake exhaust gasket?

Do it all at once, otherwise you really will be cursing!
 

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ok so just go ahead and pull the head and do it all at once? i got a garret coming and a 3" so i guess ill do all that to. man this thing had better damn well run 13's when i get the slicks or im gonna really curse.

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Do it all at once, otherwise you really will be cursing!
 
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