[buckmazter420]

Hello all. I'm new to these "forums" and I really like them. They provide lots of information about my car. Anyways, I own a 95' Dodge Intrepid. It's a really nice car for families or what not, but here's my question.
As I accelerate out of 3rd, there is a hard knock from the transmission or the engine mounts. So when it shifts into 4th you can hear it almost bang into something. There really isn't a jerk, just a bang. Another example is if I am in reverse, it will also bang if I give it a little gas, BUT if I put it in reverse, don't give it any gas and wait till it starts to back up, then give it gas nothing will happen. Also, just yesturday My car was running for about 2 hours non-stop and it wouldn't shift out of 3rd, hence 5500 rpm for a few seconds, then I slowed way the F*** down. Could that just be low transmission fluid??? I'll get new transmission fluid and all that jazz next week. BUT I still think a mount could be in trouble!
Anyone know what the deal is?
Could it be some kind of mount?
Please respond. I'm almost convinced it's a mount, but I really don't know anything about cars. :thumb:

 

[allmotor]

there are soooooo many variables and possible problems, giving you an exact answer is impossible. for a fact, you need to have a professional test and inspect your transmission. to me, it sounds like the trans is due for a rebuild. it also sounds like you need a new tranmission mount, this is a very common failure. takes about 1 hr to replace and costs under $75 right from chrysler. the stuck in 3rd is actually stuck in 2nd. if you have a major failure or any electrical problems, this is the gear it stays in.

 

[kermit]

It is possible that you are low on fluid, if it did eventually shift. I would get it filled ASAP. Changes are that the transmission is really weak anyways and will probably go out in the near future, so keep that in mind. If adding fluid fixes the issue, I imagine that you are just buying time, the damage is already done.

An yes, I does sound like it could be a bad mount.

 

[nechi20]

i'd say mount on the back, and it sounds as though you're in "limp home mode" those transmissions share the same components as the a604, and very touchy! using the wrong fluid will destroy it! it needs to be babied. limp home mode is the transmission computer's way of letting you know somehting is wrong.. (wont shift into 3rd) so you need to get it hooked up to a scan tool.

 

[allmotor]

i'd say mount on the back, and it sounds as though you're in "limp home mode" those transmissions share the same components as the a604, and very touchy! using the wrong fluid will destroy it! it needs to be babied. limp home mode is the transmission computer's way of letting you know somehting is wrong.. (wont shift into 3rd) so you need to get it hooked up to a scan tool.

what is the "wrong" fluid, how do you know it will destroy the trans? I've been running plain old Dexron in my first intrepid rebuild. I rebuilt the trans in 1999, changed the fluid and filter once in 2005 and currently have 170,000 miles on it since the rebuild (car has 301,000 miles on it right now and had just over 130,000 on in when I did the trans). since 1999, I've built over 100 604's and 606's. I've only used Dexron and have not yet had a come back or any failures.

 

[nechi20]

check out dodgeintrepid dot net, you'll see. there are countless posts there about these transmissions.. even chrysler screwed up by not specifying to use ATF +3 or ATF +4 specifically. check out this page at allpar Chrysler, Plymouth, and Dodge four-speed automatic transmission repairs

 

[allmotor]

check out dodgeintrepid dot net, you'll see. there are countless posts there about these transmissions.. even chrysler screwed up by not specifying to use ATF +3 or ATF +4 specifically. check out this page at allpar Chrysler, Plymouth, and Dodge four-speed automatic transmission repairs

huh, i guess your right, I must be wrong with all my trans rebuilds over the past 10 years. wonder how i managed to get it right using the wrong fluid every time. I'll call back everyone and change that right away. I'm going to immediatly change the fluid in my intrepid since it's due anyway. thanks for getting this information to me, just wish I wouldn't have made such a grave mistake for the 100+ units I rebuilt for all these years. Do you think that's what the originator of the post problem is... are you thinking that his whole problem is due to the wrong fluid.... is that the path you are leading him down to fix the shifting issue.

btw, do you know that exact difference between dexron and mopar 7176? I do.

 

[phantomrt]

You can read all over dodgeintrepid dot net and the rest of the internet about what causes their 2.7L engine failures and everyone is very much incorrect. I have torn them down myself, inspected all the parts myself, rebuilt them myself, and drove them myself for tens of thousands of miles and came to my own conclusion of what causes them to fail. Its not the internal water pump, its not head gaskets, its not their tri-metal bearings, its not because of small oil supply passages, its not because of small oil return passages, its not because of sludging, its not because of sludge clogging the pickup screen. Hell, some of them that are knocking can be fixed with a $1.90 O-ring and 2 hours labor.

 

[nechi20]

yes 2.7 owners, maintenence is key.. and.. use synthetic oil! actually what happened with my intrepid, (96 3.3) was the TCM lost communications with the PCM. that set me in limp home mode.. so, i replaced the computer, not knowing about the dextron issue.. and drove it some more.. i too had changed fluid and filter refilling it with dextron... about a year later, out of now where, would slip out of gear while i was driving, just like it was going into neutral. no fluid leaks. one day i put it in gear and heard a loud clunk and engine stalled. it still starts up though, just cant drive it. have not fully investigated it yet, just left it where it died. (in my driveway) how allmotor managed all those years, pure luck i assume.. lol

 

[nechi20]

oh wait.. your question:

btw, do you know that exact difference between dexron and mopar 7176? I do.

IIRC was it something about emulsifiers or something like that?? not sure.. what is the difference?

 

[kermit]

how allmotor managed all those years, pure luck i assume.. lol

I think he was being sarcastic...

I think his point is that there is hardly any difference between the two.

 

[glht_omni]

a 95 intrepid is not a 2.7, its either a 3.3 or 3.5. those years intrepids trans sucked, they had those bulletproof (know a guy who has 450k on original engine, but 4th trans) 3.5 engines and them crappy trans that give up after 100k. i had one for 3 months and the trans went at 112k.

there are 4 sensors on that trans that you can unplug and wipe off the magnetic tip, do that first, then flush the fluid, change the filter and drive it easy with your fingers crossed.

 

[allmotor]

a 95 intrepid is not a 2.7, its either a 3.3 or 3.5. those years intrepids trans sucked, they had those bulletproof (know a guy who has 450k on original engine, but 4th trans) 3.5 engines and them crappy trans that give up after 100k. i had one for 3 months and the trans went at 112k.

there are 4 sensors on that trans that you can unplug and wipe off the magnetic tip, do that first, then flush the fluid, change the filter and drive it easy with your fingers crossed.

no-one said anything about a 1995 intrepid having a 2.7. the man was stating an analogy of how internet babble is often incorrect with diagnostic tip/solutions or hype.

4 sensors? I can only find 3 on my intrepid trans with magnetic tip (output and input speed sensors and crank sensor) there's one plug in for the PNDL switch and one for the solenoid pack. where is the other sensor you are talking about.

 

[glht_omni]

maybe there were only 3 then, its been about 5 years since i owned the POS, i swapped the trans, that one was junk also, so i traded it for a 96 escort.

if chrysler was going to put a POS trans in those cars they should have made it a little easier to get the damn thing out!

do the 2000+ models have a more reliable trans? i havent seen too many for sale with a trans problem.

 

[allmotor]

maybe there were only 3 then, its been about 5 years since i owned the POS, i swapped the trans, that one was junk also, so i traded it for a 96 escort.

if chrysler was going to put a POS trans in those cars they should have made it a little easier to get the damn thing out!

do the 2000+ models have a more reliable trans? i havent seen too many for sale with a trans problem.

these transmissions are GRAVY to r&r. i'll take all I can get way over a taurus or any GM FWD trans. takes me less than 4hrs to R&R. 2000+ is the same trans. I've had a lot less failures come thru of the 42le's vs the 41TE. but then I've also seen both with 200,000+ and never being repaired. hell I can remember back in the day, if you got 80,000 miles from an engine or trans a lucky break.

 

[Reaper1]

I thought I'd add a little something to this thread. It seems Mr. Allmotor here can't stay constant with what he tells people(besides the usual BS). This can be found origionally posted here:http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f22/130341-transmission-fluid.html

This is a quote copy/pated from that thread that Mr. Allmotor wrote!

you never go wrong with using genuine Mopar 7176 fluid. get the good stuff and all will be fine.

Why is he SO adamant ANY other time he's posted about fluid about his use of Dexron, but this case was so different? Wierd! *shrugs*