90 daytona es 2.5 turbo
parts being reviewed:
MAGNAFLOW 3" straight-through glass pack muffler from turbosunleashed.
3" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust piping from turbosunleashed.
Stainless steel exhaust clamps from turbosunleashed.
First, the mandrel bent piping kit:
The kit I received is not quite what was pictured or described on the turbosunleashed website. Only one of the stock hangers is actually welded on, the other one comes taped to a bag. According to Chris, this is because this kit fits many cars and the second hanger would either not be in the right place or would be in the way on a car other than my daytona.
As far as fitting the exhaust onto the car, the rearward section hits the torsion bar strut on the drivers side, and according to Chris, that section may need to be cut and rotated in order to fit. I found that there was no way the piping would not hit the torsion bar strut and/or point anywhere near straight-back without cutting it. I cut this section in two location to make the right curve, and basically completely changed the shape of this section, but it may somehow be possible to just cut it in one place and rotate it.
I also noticed the S bend section hits both the tranny tunnel heat shield and the drivers side brake line support bracket. I had to bend the bracket a bit but it still hits over bumps. Looks like I will need to remove the bracket and do a number on it to get some clearance. Im not sure how to solve the tranny tunnel heat shield clearance issue. These clearance issues appear to be independent of the hanger locations or how the tube is mounted, as such: if you put the S tube where it goes, even if you shift it forward or backward, it still hits. It just needs to have its bends a little closer together.
I was disappointed to find out that this kit does not live up to the websites description of "No one likes the unexpected expense of exhaust shop modifications for a kit that's advertised as a "Bolt-On" out of the box. ". Which is EXACTLY what was required to get this installed. Not only that, the picture on the website actually shows TWO stock hangers welded on to it. Im dumbfounded.
My particular install involved cutting the final section in two places, and switching the locations of the cut pieces to get just the right curve to miss the torsion bar strut and point right at the stock muffler location where my new muffler is.
MAGNAFLOW 3" muffler:
This muffler appears to be 3" straight through, unlike the dynomax ultraflow which according to gus mahons site is 3" inlet and outlet but actually 4" internally.
The muffler comes with no mounting studs or holes or anything of that nature, which I didnt expect anyway. I cut off the hanger bolt from the stock muffler and welded it onto the new muffler, and was able to get this muffler to mount in the stock location exactly like the old one.
After installing this exhaust system, I've learned that how your exhaust sounds depends on EVERY little detail, most definitely including where the exhaust system finally dumps. Dumping it a couple inches foward of the rear bumper versus actually dumping it BEHIND the car makes a HUGE difference in droning.
My system now dumps BEHIND the car, straight out, no turn-down.
Its a stock 2.5" downpipe to a 2.5" cat, and then 3" all the way back. The muffler is installed in the stock location.
It sounds great and droning is very minimal or non existant. Im happy with it, and I HATE droning. The are lots of little pops and unique engines sounds, and if you are familiar with how this engine sounds without an exhaust system, its those same sounds, only very muffled, like you are hearing them through a pillow. At idle it is nearly silent.
Stainless steel exhaust clamps
WORTH EVERY PENNY. Makes making a custom exhaust system like this one SO much easier because you can easily remove and install and rotate pipes to experiment and find the right curve. Doesnt leave dents or crimps on pipes so there is never an issue with things sticking together. They look really cool too. It says on the package that they can be used with slip joints, but I was not able to get them to work like that. Maybe I was doing something wrong? They use one continuous band of stainless steel, if you have multiple diameters of tubing inside the band it just doesnt tighten down over the smaller tube. And I dont think its meant to actually CRUSH the bigger tube onto the smaller tube like a cheap-o exhaust clamp does, its just too much surface area. But if you are joining tubes butt-style (lol) they are FANTASTIC.
parts being reviewed:
MAGNAFLOW 3" straight-through glass pack muffler from turbosunleashed.
3" cat-back mandrel bent exhaust piping from turbosunleashed.
Stainless steel exhaust clamps from turbosunleashed.
First, the mandrel bent piping kit:
The kit I received is not quite what was pictured or described on the turbosunleashed website. Only one of the stock hangers is actually welded on, the other one comes taped to a bag. According to Chris, this is because this kit fits many cars and the second hanger would either not be in the right place or would be in the way on a car other than my daytona.
As far as fitting the exhaust onto the car, the rearward section hits the torsion bar strut on the drivers side, and according to Chris, that section may need to be cut and rotated in order to fit. I found that there was no way the piping would not hit the torsion bar strut and/or point anywhere near straight-back without cutting it. I cut this section in two location to make the right curve, and basically completely changed the shape of this section, but it may somehow be possible to just cut it in one place and rotate it.
I also noticed the S bend section hits both the tranny tunnel heat shield and the drivers side brake line support bracket. I had to bend the bracket a bit but it still hits over bumps. Looks like I will need to remove the bracket and do a number on it to get some clearance. Im not sure how to solve the tranny tunnel heat shield clearance issue. These clearance issues appear to be independent of the hanger locations or how the tube is mounted, as such: if you put the S tube where it goes, even if you shift it forward or backward, it still hits. It just needs to have its bends a little closer together.
I was disappointed to find out that this kit does not live up to the websites description of "No one likes the unexpected expense of exhaust shop modifications for a kit that's advertised as a "Bolt-On" out of the box. ". Which is EXACTLY what was required to get this installed. Not only that, the picture on the website actually shows TWO stock hangers welded on to it. Im dumbfounded.
My particular install involved cutting the final section in two places, and switching the locations of the cut pieces to get just the right curve to miss the torsion bar strut and point right at the stock muffler location where my new muffler is.
MAGNAFLOW 3" muffler:
This muffler appears to be 3" straight through, unlike the dynomax ultraflow which according to gus mahons site is 3" inlet and outlet but actually 4" internally.
The muffler comes with no mounting studs or holes or anything of that nature, which I didnt expect anyway. I cut off the hanger bolt from the stock muffler and welded it onto the new muffler, and was able to get this muffler to mount in the stock location exactly like the old one.
After installing this exhaust system, I've learned that how your exhaust sounds depends on EVERY little detail, most definitely including where the exhaust system finally dumps. Dumping it a couple inches foward of the rear bumper versus actually dumping it BEHIND the car makes a HUGE difference in droning.
My system now dumps BEHIND the car, straight out, no turn-down.
Its a stock 2.5" downpipe to a 2.5" cat, and then 3" all the way back. The muffler is installed in the stock location.
It sounds great and droning is very minimal or non existant. Im happy with it, and I HATE droning. The are lots of little pops and unique engines sounds, and if you are familiar with how this engine sounds without an exhaust system, its those same sounds, only very muffled, like you are hearing them through a pillow. At idle it is nearly silent.
Stainless steel exhaust clamps
WORTH EVERY PENNY. Makes making a custom exhaust system like this one SO much easier because you can easily remove and install and rotate pipes to experiment and find the right curve. Doesnt leave dents or crimps on pipes so there is never an issue with things sticking together. They look really cool too. It says on the package that they can be used with slip joints, but I was not able to get them to work like that. Maybe I was doing something wrong? They use one continuous band of stainless steel, if you have multiple diameters of tubing inside the band it just doesnt tighten down over the smaller tube. And I dont think its meant to actually CRUSH the bigger tube onto the smaller tube like a cheap-o exhaust clamp does, its just too much surface area. But if you are joining tubes butt-style (lol) they are FANTASTIC.
